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ARF Batman Prototype
- Thread starter puretime
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I think ARF may have been a bit overhyped during old days. We are expecting too much from them. They continue to come up with faulty products. Maybe it's just the best they can do. Hopefully Clean Factory can produce a decent dial
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Tbh I’ve been about arf since the v1 sub with the crown that stuck out a foot from the case. I’ve owned a couple noobs and their bezels were a joke compared to arf. I think between the bracelet(which is still awesome),the finish and the bezel, they made a name for themselves. I had a sh3135 that the dial was awful and the date font was completely ridiculous but the rest I think is pretty good. In fact it’s my super franken no date now. I’ve looked side by side with my buddy’s gen and neither of us can see any difference. That being said I’ve had several compliments on this watch, most can’t believe it’s an ARF. Even been asked who has done the work on the case. Maybe they aren’t consistent? Maybe if you get an early batch you’re good but once they take off they become sub par? And maybe my eyes aren’t as good as you guys, I don’t know, but I will say, I’ve been impressed with every arf I’ve owned in some way and this Batman is worth a shot.
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We are in a rep forum with watch enthusiast. It's clear that we tend to scrutinize watches too much and normal people wouldn't notice almost any difference. It's also true that ARF is better than noob (not that it was so difficult to be better) but they are currently worse than VRF, ZZF, RXF, ZF and all the new factories which are now trying to enter the market. Not a fanboy of any factory but I will never buy an ARF again until they don't come up with something of decent and reliable which can justify their "top factory" status. They are taking years to make simple upgrades like dial, case and movement.
If you think I am too hard just think to all those guys who bought ARF GMTs and after two months were broken and faded. Almost every single piece had problems. I am ok with reps being hit or miss but when almost all of your movements break and you don't care there is something wrong
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Hey I get it, the movement is crap from what I’ve heard. Cant speak for vrf but I’ve borrowed the hulk zzf and honestly, it’s ok, the bezel engraving colors just don’t look right and the case looks the same as my arf, not to say others ARFs have the blocky lugs or whatever but I can only compare to what I’ve seen. Personally as far the dial, none of them are gonna win me over vs white gold markers.Once you see it it can’t be unseen.
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Movement is pure crap. And they have also a better one available but they don't upgrade. ZZF is not perfect and personally I didn't like it that much but is better than ARF. Case is different. ZZF dial but also the other new dials are very close, they don't have white gold markers but at least they don't have ultra white flat lume on squared cheap indices.
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I'll hold the door for you whilst you get your coat.
- 31/5/18
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Dude I get it really, all I’m saying is the one consistent fail I’ve seen in Batman is the insert, every color looks just terrible. Maybe they nail this one aspect. Honestly I’ve never seen any dial that’s every close to gen. They’re all too white and I’ve already mentioned the gold. This watch is about the bezel.
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Dude I get it really, all I’m saying is the one consistent fail I’ve seen in Batman is the insert, every color looks just terrible. Maybe they nail this one aspect. Honestly I’ve never seen any dial that’s every close to gen. They’re all too white and I’ve already mentioned the gold. This watch is about the bezel.
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If you like it buy it, nobody would be mad at you, on the contrary it could be a good contribution for the community. We have just told you what will happen with the movement.
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Yes I know about the movement as I’ve been here on Rwi quite a while but what we do here is find the best and worst of these factories and correct the faults that each of us can’t deal with. That’s why we franken or swap arf dial with bp and etc. IF the bezel in Batman is kick ass I’m sure I won’t be the only person willing to throw a new movement in it as a gen bezel is not an option.
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I know ARF lugs on their Sub are a hair wider, but a silly unooticable detail like that hasn’t stopped me from wearing a solid well made rep with a first class build and finish that screams quality. No one is going to notice a micron difference in dimension or shape. Let get real and focus on noticeable details that really matter in the real world.
Regarding the ARF GMT, their lugs if not spot on are close to the Noob so called “great case” with sloppy bezel action. Here’s my Noob and ARF for a visual:
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Regarding the ARF GMT, their lugs if not spot on are close to the Noob so called “great case” with sloppy bezel action. Here’s my Noob and ARF for a visual:
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I know ARF lugs on their Sub are a hair wider, but a silly unooticable detail like that hasn’t stopped me from wearing a solid well made rep with a first class build and finish that screams quality. No one is going to notice a micron difference in dimension or shape. Let get real and focus on noticeable details that really matter in the real world.
Regarding the ARF GMT, their lugs if not spot on are close to the Noob so called “great case” with sloppy bezel action. Here’s my Noob and ARF for a visual:
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ARF
Both great reps, my eyes are glued to the bezel on that noob, can’t see the difference in the case from here anyway.
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I know ARF lugs on their Sub are a hair wider, but a silly unooticable detail like that hasn’t stopped me from wearing a solid well made rep with a first class build and finish that screams quality. No one is going to notice a micron difference in dimension or shape. Let get real and focus on noticeable details that really matter in the real world.
Regarding the ARF GMT, their lugs if not spot on are close to the Noob so called “great case” with sloppy bezel action. Here’s my Noob and ARF for a visual:
Noob
ARF
Guys I am sorry if someone feels offended by my opinion because I didn't want to do that. I just wanted to share my disappointment with this long awaited batman and maybe some points to improve it. It's true that not all the differences in details matter in real world and it's true that these watches are still incredibly well done for the price. I was asked what I think of the ARF case and I shared that. If you have a different opinion is totally fair as it's a matter of preference. Let's go back on this ARF Batman only.
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No one feels offended I’m sure, just offering opinions same as you. This is what we do here at Rwi , we’re all trying to help each other out with the info I we’ve attained first person or by reading to enjoy the hobby we’re completely addicted to.
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Thanks for understanding bro. Everything was done to help not to offend.
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Na not taken that way from the beginning, if nobody spoke their opinion, we wouldn’t learn anything at all.
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It looks like ARF used a gen 126710 to model it's CG's from, so they are a tad skinny to be on a rep 116710 model.
It looks like VRF used a gen 116710 to model its CG's from, so they are tad too wide to be on a rep 126710 model.
The way they mix and match stuff can drive you crazy if you let it.
Kayatsu1 You are right bro, the ARF CG's are off for a 116710. I forgot to compare apples to apples.
It looks like VRF used a gen 116710 to model its CG's from, so they are tad too wide to be on a rep 126710 model.
The way they mix and match stuff can drive you crazy if you let it.
Kayatsu1 You are right bro, the ARF CG's are off for a 116710. I forgot to compare apples to apples.
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I’m glad we have a couple enthusiast GMT masters (pun) here. I’m hoping this ARF hype isn’t for nothing but it’s seeming more and more like it’s not the real deal
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