APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber

[Bluefiredc]

Every QC I get for a white APSF has screw alignment issues on the top two bezel screws

 

[xZeroCoolx]

Every QC I get for a white APSF has screw alignment issues on the top two bezel screws

Just use the appropriate screw driver and fix them.

 

[serumdiesel]

Every QC I get for a white APSF has screw alignment issues on the top two bezel screws

Yeah, this is an extremely easy DIY fix that will take you no time at all to fix. Best to not let that be the reason you RL if everything else is good to go, especially with the frequent issues with hour markers, tilted "AP", etc.

It's like finding your perfect woman, but you reject her because you don't like the shoes she has on. Buddy, the shoe situation can easily be fixed.

 

[legend]

It's like finding your perfect woman, but you reject her because you don't like the shoes she has on. Buddy, the shoe situation can easily be fixed.

No no @serumdiesel he said top two screws. So that’s more like the bra or the earrings. Can be more expensive to fix than the shoes depending on brand and make.

 

[grillbrill]

No no @serumdiesel he said top two screws. So that’s more like the bra or the earrings. Can be more expensive to fix than the shoes depending on brand and make.

I also thought so.

 

[germanynrw]

Guys apsf actually v4 15500 ?

 

[Luca_1]

Guys apsf actually v4 15500 ?

I think it is still V3 but they have updated the dial in the newest batch

 

[germanynrw]

I‘ve seen 15510 with v4, for this I‘m asking how it is with 15500.

 

[speedywombat]

I‘ve seen 15510 with v4, for this I‘m asking how it is with 15500.

I haven't seen a V4 update yet. The latest dial update was July of this year, so I'm not sure. Have you seen pics of the newest v4 dial version? Anything different?

 

[Bluefiredc]

Much appreciated on the advice guys!

 

[FiliGelli]

Morning guys,
For those who has had issues with power reserve on 4302 clone movement, good news.
That's my experience:
I got a fresh new 15500 v3 from a friend here on m2m.
It was never worn so seller didn't know how movement behaviour was.
When i received it i quickly noticed that after 12/14h it stopped tu run.
I tried to understand what the issue was than i realized that rotor didn't charge watch at all and manual winding charge was not sufficent to allow it to run over 12/14h.
As i really liked it because of the nice finishes and following some comments/advices here i sent it to a local watchmaker for a full service.
That were the readings of the watch when he received it:

It was clear that he needed a full service so...
Some shots of the process:

As you can see from the readings after service the behaviour of the movement changed dramatically.
What you see in the green circle are the weels dedicated to the autowind module.
He has to double clean them with ultrasonic bath as they were quite stucked and obviously responsible for the autowind charge issue.

As it's now in my watchwinder for almost a full week and considering that it's keeping run perfect...it seems that issue has been fixed.
AP is now also waterproof.
Special thanks to @merlix for the great communication, kindness and precision demonstrated.

 

[VintageCollector12]

Looks like the APSF batches from July are hitting the sweet spot! Smooth movement, spot-on alignment, and overall top-notch QC—seems like you got lucky with this one. Hope the trend continues because APSF has had its ups and downs. It's reassuring to see them pull it together on this model. Cheers to enjoying a well-made piece!

 

[FiliGelli]

Looks like the APSF batches from July are hitting the sweet spot! Smooth movement, spot-on alignment, and overall top-notch QC—seems like you got lucky with this one. Hope the trend continues because APSF has had its ups and downs. It's reassuring to see them pull it together on this model. Cheers to enjoying a well-made piece!

Tbh my ap is a ZF V3 and considering what i had to do to havd it in good health i can't say that i got a lucky one

 

[giezzo]

Inspired by @FiliGelli post, dropped of my ZF 15500 for service as well. Couldn’t handle 12hrs or less PR and misaligned date. petty that $500+ watch leaves factory with such craptastic movement but whatever.
Will report back next week.

 

[FiliGelli]

Inspired by @FiliGelli post, dropped of my ZF 15500 for service as well. Couldn’t handle 12hrs or less PR and misaligned date. petty that $500+ watch leaves factory with such craptastic movement but whatever.
Will report back next week.

Fyi, my watch is still running since it left the watchmaker. I'm keeping it in my watchwinder and sometimes i use it.
Zero hesitation and timekeeping is still perfect.
It's not a matter of rotor weight.
It's a good movement but it leaves factories in bad conditions so it can't perform as it could.

 

[Reaps]

Fyi, my watch is still running since it left the watchmaker. I'm keeping it in my watchwinder and sometimes i use it.
Zero hesitation and timekeeping is still perfect.
It's not a matter of rotor weight.
It's a good movement but it leaves factories in bad conditions so it can't perform as it could.

Yes.. typical replica clone movements. Quality of parts are generally pretty good but assembly is piss poor.... thanks for sharing your experience

 

[giezzo]

Right. So my ZF15500 is back from my watchmaker who has worked on my several reps in the past. All the the previous ones had a simple asian/miyota movements though. This was the first one with clone.
After inspection, he was somewhat impressed with this rep’s quality in general and then called the movement a “cute looking POS”.
He ridiculed its half-ass assembly and quality of the materials used. Even aftter I offered more money, he refused to perform a complete service as he could absolutely not provide any sort or guarantee that this thing will work In a longer run. So, he did some type of light service and now the PR went from 12 to a mighty 18 hours

So that’s as far as it went.

 

[germanynrw]

Every QC I get for a white APSF has screw alignment issues on the top two bezel screws

 

[Bluefiredc]

Finally got a good QC, just waiting on mine to arrive!
Stupid postal strikes

 

[Autobús]

Never been a huge fan of the silver dial but this pic singlehandledly changed my mind. Beautiful.