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APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber

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I think you’re over worrying. Other than the fact that this is a replica clone movement operating within its specs, I guarantee you that when the watch arrives and you put it on a timegrapher, it will give you another set of reading altogether after the shipping process.
If you care about the movement reliability then get it serviced and regulated after it arrives. The movement will be more stable and reliable then.
@raytron what Legend says is correct. Another thing to consider is that the rate shown in QC is just for one position (dial up). Mechanical watches will have different rates in different orientations. This is why on gens they are regulated to 5 different positions and several different temperatures (since temperature also affects the rate). Since the watch will be in many different positions relative to the pull of gravity when it’s on your wrist, the key is for the average of the rate across (usually 5 different) positions to be zero and for no one position to have a particularly large rare error. With rep QC we don’t get this level of detail, but a good rep watch smith will likely regulate the watch across at least a few different positions (at least dial up, and 6 down)…
 
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I think that's no reason to RL as well.

Although I will say that my I took the excellent values on the timegrapher QC photo (+1.0s, 280 deg ampl., beat error 0.0) for my ZF V3 with a big grain of salt as well, but after 4 days in constant use, the real life performance is in fact in relative accordance to those values.

Not +1s/d of course, more like 2-3s. But that still puts many gens to shame. It actually performs almost as good as my METAS rated co-axial Omega gen.

So timegrapher QCs by TDs don't have to necessarily be all BS. 😂

My Clean Pepsi was my best out-of-the-box performing rep until the 15500 ZF V3 arrived.
 
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Hey guys thanks for all your input. Appreciate it and in fact it was very helpful. I guess I wil just take it
 
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I think that's a good decision. When it arrives, see how it performs under real life conditions. Maybe you will be in fact satisfied with it as it is, or you can always have it serviced (now or after a while) which is always a good idea with a new rep, regardless of any timegraphers or even actual performance.
 

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Just got QC for my blue 15500 ZF V3. It looks good to me. Timing was 10s/d and 0.1 error. Pairing it with my 5 year old 15400 JF V3 on a rubber B strap.











 

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Bracelet and case are comfy and not sharp?
No need for polishing/beveling?
Bracelet on the 15500 ZF I handled was ok, a bit rough around edges but overall fine. I don't think he cleaned the bracelet on receiving the watch, so I think that might help a bit.

Polishing/beveling is kind of a personal opinion. IMO, the watch looks pretty good right out of the box. With some polishing/beveling, it does look a lot better and closer to gen, but unless you've spent some time with a gen/looking at gens you probably wouldn't notice a big difference.
 

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I think the end result of a beveling/polishing job depends more on the skills than on the tools.

A real pro will probably achieve much better results with improvised tools than a beginner will with the best possible tools imaginable.
 

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I think the end result of a beveling/polishing job depends more on the skills than on the tools.

A real pro will probably achieve much better results with improvised tools than a beginner will with the best possible tools imaginable.
I agree... if I were to polish a watch it'd look like chicken scratch.
 

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The White dial has arrived from My QC's - the video really shows aspects of the sunburst effect, but certain lights really do make the dial look more Matted.