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AP Royal Oak 15400: Comparison between Gen, BP and Angus Versions (picture heavy!!)

set2374

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This looks great set! did you already polish the rehaut and get AR that quickly. Crystal seems gone in your picture

I did polish the rehaut, which makes a noticeable difference. To my knowledge there is no AR on the crystal--but to me it looks the same as any of the watches I have with "clear" AR (like the Diver 3.5) and the gen. I would assume that if BP had used AR on the crystal, the TD's would be promoting that fact. Given the absence of such a promotion, I assume there is no AR--but I could be wrong.

I wish Diver for comparison here to compare side by side, but here's the crystal with reflection in my office with the blinds opened:

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Here's a close up for the hell of it:

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Rubberj00

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To be fair, 'set2374' that's a bloody good looking watch you have on there.

I noticed with the previous reps, 14790 especially, that the watch looks absolutely stunning from a longer distance, like a 10,15k watch (like your first pic) but when you looked closer (like 2nd pic) it wasn't quite so impressive and the finishing of it no longer lived up to an expensive watch. From the pics i'd say the same stands for this - would you agree?

Most reps i've owned i'd say the same thing for, even the ROO's and v6 hbb's - the only one i think has that expensive looking finishing to it 100% of the time is the diver.
 

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To be fair, 'set2374' that's a bloody good looking watch you have on there.

I noticed with the previous reps, 14790 especially, that the watch looks absolutely stunning from a longer distance, like a 10,15k watch (like your first pic) but when you looked closer (like 2nd pic) it wasn't quite so impressive and the finishing of it no longer lived up to an expensive watch. From the pics i'd say the same stands for this - would you agree?

Most reps i've owned i'd say the same thing for, even the ROO's and v6 hbb's - the only one i think has that expensive looking finishing to it 100% of the time is the diver.

I think that is certainly true of many reps, even good ones. The BP 15400 is not on the same level as the Exp2, Diver and 243--but I say that only because those watches are each closed backed and are true 1:1 reps. The BP 15400 is not a true 1:1 because it's 1.1mm thicker than the gen. In terms of actual feel, the finish on the components is really good. There are no sharp edges that need to be filed, sanded etc. The clasp looks great and only opens when you want it to. The bracelet feels very good. It's a nice weight it's very smooth and well finished. The bracelet and the watch had fit well even off the wrist the watch and bracelet together lay the right way. I can't compare this watch to the 14790 rep since I never had one (doesn't fit my 8.5" wrist), but even up close this doesn't look or feel like cheap watch. In fact, I think it feels more expensive than my Ultimate Nautilus (V6 factory), that cost $100 more. It also helps that the movement is super smooth on this watch.

Anyway, as I do with all me reps (except for the Diver, which was perfect as is), I did completely disassemble the watch, cleaned the mid-case, bezel, caseback and bracelet in an ultrasonic cleaner, used dry lube on the bracelet, checked the movement, put a coat of wax on the steel surfaces and put it back together the right way (after first polishing the rehaut). In my experience, most BP watches need a good once over after you get them. So, with about 2 hours of total work, the watch (to me anyway) not only looks the part of a $15k watch but also feels like one.
 

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I think that is certainly true of many reps, even good ones. The BP 15400 is not on the same level as the Exp2, Diver and 243--but I say that only because those watches are each closed backed and are true 1:1 reps. The BP 15400 is not a true 1:1 because it's 1.1mm thicker than the gen. In terms of actual feel, the finish on the components is really good. There are no sharp edges that need to be filed, sanded etc. The clasp looks great and only opens when you want it to. The bracelet feels very good. It's a nice weight it's very smooth and well finished. The bracelet and the watch had fit well even off the wrist the watch and bracelet together lay the right way. I can't compare this watch to the 14790 rep since I never had one (doesn't fit my 8.5" wrist), but even up close this doesn't look or feel like cheap watch. In fact, I think it feels more expensive than my Ultimate Nautilus (V6 factory), that cost $100 more. It also helps that the movement is super smooth on this watch.

Anyway, as I do with all me reps (except for the Diver, which was perfect as is), I did completely disassemble the watch, cleaned the mid-case, bezel, caseback and bracelet in an ultrasonic cleaner, used dry lube on the bracelet, checked the movement, put a coat of wax on the steel surfaces and put it back together the right way (after first polishing the rehaut). In my experience, most BP watches need a good once over after you get them. So, with about 2 hours of total work, the watch (to me anyway) not only looks the part of a $15k watch but also feels like one.

Awesome - cheers brother.

It's great to get someone who obviously know's what they're talking about to give a description in that much detail about a watch. Can tell you love the RO models too, as do I - probably because we are the few on here that wear suits regularly :hehehe: ROO's and HBB's attract a little too much attention when they're 'poking' out of a suit sleeve.

I was going to hang on for angus's 'super rep' version but a combination of the 6+ month wait & your detailed description i may have to order one of these puppies. White dial i think though :cheers:
 

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bugger...there goes another $380 of must have!
 

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Photos of the new maker up on RWG by toro... bezel screws not perfect like the BP and date wheel don't seem to be centered yet. bracelet looks much better. case screws much better than BP? crown engraving still not as deep.

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Great review bro! Good work!
Very informative!
 

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Photos of the new maker up on RWG by toro... bezel screws not perfect like the BP and date wheel don't seem to be centered yet. bracelet looks much better. case screws much better than BP? crown engraving still not as deep.

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Thanks for posting the side by side pictures. I think is the same sample that Angus had last week. It's making the rounds between the TD's.


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Awesome - cheers brother.

It's great to get someone who obviously know's what they're talking about to give a description in that much detail about a watch. Can tell you love the RO models too, as do I - probably because we are the few on here that wear suits regularly :hehehe: ROO's and HBB's attract a little too much attention when they're 'poking' out of a suit sleeve.

I was going to hang on for angus's 'super rep' version but a combination of the 6+ month wait & your detailed description i may have to order one of these puppies. White dial i think though :cheers:

Unless you absolutely must have 15400 now, hold off and wait to see the final version of angus' watch. I love my BP, but I don't want to jump to conclusions on Angus' based only on a sample.


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I'll wait for BP to shave down the CB a bit and polish the rehaut.
 

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I'll wait for BP to shave down the CB a bit and polish the rehaut.

The rehaut will be polished in the next batch...it's such an easy fix. I am nit sure te caseback is going to be fixed so fast. That's a more involved update.


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Wow good review
I don't know Angus where could we order this beast ?
 

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I will wait to see Angus's version - i just meant i no longer want to wait 6+ month after seeing atleast the quality of yours, if Angus's is better then great!

This is what i mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWAySY6_k9A

Embed isn't working so had to link it ^^^^

Just look at how it sparkles, it's ******* stunning! The reflections of the dial markers get me excited - i know it's heavily to do with lighting but my point was with most my reps sun light pretty much kills them and make them look shitty however gen's like the nautilus, RO's etc they just set on fire in the sun and just turn into obscenely beautiful watches. I know reps will never get to that but after seeing the diver i mean they weren't far of with how that 'shone'.

Set - you should try and do a video (if you have the equipment) similar to the above as a good comparison. :D:
 

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I plan to do that, but I am not going to have a chance to shoot the video and posy it before Monday. So, be patient... it's coming! I also plan to show the V6 nautilus and Diver 3.5 for scale and for comparison.

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I plan to do that, but I am not going to have a chance to shoot the video and posy it before Monday. So, be patient... it's coming! I also plan to show the V6 nautilus and Diver 3.5 for scale and for comparison.

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Sounds perfect, hope it turns out well.
 

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Would be fantastic if you could take the time to do this.,.

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I plan to do that, but I am not going to have a chance to shoot the video and posy it before Monday. So, be patient... it's coming! I also plan to show the V6 nautilus and Diver 3.5 for scale and for comparison.

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