...over at RWG you get the explanation for that matter... Serge answers and stands up for these things....
Luthiers answer was more like an insult to Serge and a way to "blame" him for this.... sketchy if you ask me...
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...over at RWG you get the explanation for that matter... Serge answers and stands up for these things....
Luthiers answer was more like an insult to Serge and a way to "blame" him for this.... sketchy if you ask me...
Ban at RG means nothing, especially if Nembo pulls his ban hammer. Ive seen dozens of people banned there for nothing. I just visit RepGeek for information and almost dont post there.
This is from RWG:
[quote name='Serge D' timestamp='1395342812' post='1221193']What a ******* moron fr calling me a scammer. He twisted things around. I was hiding from him for 5 months? I was too affraid my strap are done and he is going to ship them to me, so i put him on ignore. Lol.
Ok, there are alot of close people in this thread, so i will share the story in short about how i was banned on RG and then RWI. There was no scam involved.
1. I introduced my brother to the watch hobby. He registered at RG but his account wasnt approved. So i PMed Nembo (oh boy how i wish i picked a different mod that time) and i asked if he could approve my brothers account.
2. At the same time XBones was setting me up with a supporters section so i could start selling my straps.
3. Somehow Nembo says my IP matched someone elses ID and calls me a scammer. I tried to prove him wrong but he just wouldnt listed, that man is one hot-headed person, always wakes up from the wrong foot. So he tells me to wait till he sorts this out.
4. By this time CrossBones sets up my section, nembo notices and tells me he was right, im a scammer and went behind his back to open a supporters section. Plus i had to pay for a few months upfront.
Im banned, im out the money i paid, and noone wanted to investigate, i had my friends talk to nembo but he just zoned everyone out.
5. I switched to RWI, a nice place, good members, but again Nembo finds me there too, and started provoking me in public. I couldnt hold myself and agrued back, i asked for my money back i paid for RG Store Section, he ignored, so i said i will file a PP dispute. Thats what its for i thought, when you pay and shit goes bezerk. So for mentioning PP Dispute, which is against rules (i still think it didnt apply to me 100% at that time, its not like i bough a few watches from TD and disputed the charge. I was and still am at zero fault.
6. So for the above, i get banned from RWI.
Thanks to RWG my passion for rep watches wasnt destroyed like my brothers was, but it lead to an even deeper passion to strap building, and recently to vintage watch building/modding. I have nothing to hide from this place, this is my home, frankly, i dont need RWI or RG with all the outstanding members here who do investigate with dedication and always come to the common sence and trusty resolution.
A-men.[/quote]
As a casual observer it looks like this thread was created with ulterior motives behind it. If it was just to get a response from Luthier, then mission accomplished but we all know how these things can end up. Maybe it should end up next door.
As FYI this was Serge's explanation over on RWG...
"Ok, there are alot of close people in this thread, so i will share the story in short about how i was banned on RG and then RWI. There was no scam involved.
1. I introduced my brother to the watch hobby. He registered at RG but his account wasnt approved. So i PMed Nembo (oh boy how i wish i picked a different mod that time) and i asked if he could approve my brothers account.
2. At the same time XBones was setting me up with a supporters section so i could start selling my straps.
3. Somehow Nembo says my IP matched someone elses ID and calls me a scammer. I tried to prove him wrong but he just wouldnt listed, that man is one hot-headed person, always wakes up from the wrong foot. So he tells me to wait till he sorts this out.
4. By this time CrossBones sets up my section, nembo notices and tells me he was right, im a scammer and went behind his back to open a supporters section. Plus i had to pay for a few months upfront.
Im banned, im out the money i paid, and noone wanted to investigate, i had my friends talk to nembo but he just zoned everyone out.
5. I switched to RWI, a nice place, good members, but again Nembo finds me there too, and started provoking me in public. I couldnt hold myself and agrued back, i asked for my money back i paid for RG Store Section, he ignored, so i said i will file a PP dispute. Thats what its for i thought, when you pay and shit goes bezerk. So for mentioning PP Dispute, which is against rules (i still think it didnt apply to me 100% at that time, its not like i bough a few watches from TD and disputed the charge. I was and still am at zero fault.
6. So for the above, i get banned from RWI."
Let me be clear, I have no dog in this fight and am not defending Luth or Serge. I could give 2 shits about their back door deal.
I just think its hypacritical to say Luth is bad for this forum when the other guy has been ban multiple times. That was my only point.
For those that don't frequent here, Boss does not take kindly to hinky shit so if there was something under handed going on it will be dealt with. Trust me!
I just think its hypacritical to say Luth is bad for this forum when the other guy has been ban multiple times. That was my only point.
For those that don't frequent here, Boss does not take kindly to hinky shit so if there was something under handed going on it will be dealt with. Trust me!
I agree, since TB is over there at rwg as well, amd he has taken no action, then none has to be taken in my opinion.
Luth spoke his version and said he'll be paying back Serge if the last batch of those straps don't show in a couple of weeks. We'll see how this ends soon.
One thing I have not clear about the rwg watch though: if no money had to be anticipated by the members there and Luth paid everything out of his pocket, what are the members complaining about?
So, this thread benefits RWI in what way? Somebody wanna help me here?
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I think they're complaining that he boasts that he can get things done and then it turns out he's full of crap.
Luth has done me a favour in the past - I have found him to be trustworthy when Ive dealt with him
I would trust him again with my money
I would trust him again with my money
Sub, when Denisspa pulled what he did, we had a banner up, and pretty soon the full story was out, even when people were in disbelief that their "friend" did what he did. I wouldn't be surprised if Luth is just as guilty as Denisspa.
Generally, no one offers to be the middleman in a transaction without an incentive for themselves.
Rwg members have not paid for the watch yet so they should not female dog about anything.
Had they paid and were still waiting for it, I would understand.
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Had they paid and were still waiting for it, I would understand.
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Are you still angry about Luth making you look racist? Come on man. Comparing luth with Denis is stretching it as of now. I don't see anything wrong if luth was making profit being a middleman for all the headache.
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Oh no, I'm over that anger, that doesn't mean I'm not going to throw back what he threw at me, now that I have the chance. Plain and simple, he's a jerk, and thats putting it lightly. He put Serge in a bad position at a time when Serge was in a delicate situation with his wife and new child, and now he posts here and says that he doesn't care about the trouble he was at least partially responsible for. The problem if he made a profit as a middleman is that he then also partially bears responsibility for the full delivery of the goods. If he took a cut, he should try to get the product to the buyer fast, not over two years.
I agree that if he was profiting then he should deliver.
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