Again about Hytrel ring

[derjenigewelcher]

Im write problem to all td. Wait answer. Me say jtime have connection with vsf. For he i send video.

Believe me: All the TDs will claim to have "really good connection" with factory

All ring then i buy from ali have standard rolex size 0.65*0.65. and after install problem with bezel play is being decided.(( I think that before the vsf ring sizes were different. more than standard.

"standart" is for genuine. reps are different. we talk about micrometer differences. in watchmaker eyes its HUGE.

I found a factory and made an agreement with it. let's decide on the sizes.

hm?

I would like to hear the opinion of user kj2020

@KJ2020 will tell you to take a fishing line. period.

 

[KJ2020]

I would like to hear the opinion of user kj2020

It's not just the size and the shape but the quality of the material. Plus the adjoining parts - the bezel groove and the retaining ring lip - can vary enough from different sources or even batches to affect the end result.

A thicker or thinner crystal gasket has a huge effect on the performance of the bezel. Using a gen crystal gasket under a CLEAN GMT retaining ring will render the bezel immobile IF you can even get the retaining ring pressed fully. So even if VSF gets the perfect hytrel ring if the next batch of crystal gaskets is thinner because they cost less, we're back where are now.

All of the parts have to have consistent parameters, something rep factories can try to achieve but seldom will, especially over time. I don't even fool with hytrel rings anymore other than re-using an intact one that was acceptable before, back with the exact parts as before. Otherwise go fish, haha.

Ready for action

 

[xZeroCoolx]

@KJ2020 Have you found one brand that works better than the other for the fishing line? I think some that I got is too stiff.

 

[KJ2020]

@KJ2020 Have you found one brand that works better than the other for the fishing line? I think some that I got is too stiff.

Monofilament line is all I've ever used, it's made of nylon. It's a little stiff - I usually wrap it around my finger a time or two to give it a natural curve prior to fitting it in the bezel groove.

There are other types of line like fluorocarbon and braided but mono is all that's needed. As long as it's mono, brand should be irrelevant.

 

[antonygr]

Im find fix. remove the bezel. Remove gasket. Rotate hytrel/gasket ring on 180°. And insert gasket to bezel. Fine! bezel rotates rigidly! try and write please. Help or no.

 

[KJ2020]

Im find fix. remove the bezel. Remove gasket. Rotate hytrel/gasket ring on 180°. And insert gasket to bezel. Fine! bezel rotates rigidly! try and write please. Help or no.

Nearly all hytrel rings have a correct vertical orientation. Usually it is with the larger diameter step facing upward, toward the insert.

There are some variations to this orientation, and some rings that have a symmetrical top to bottom shape. That's why it's important to note the hytrel ring's vertical orientation before removing it from the groove. If the bezel movement was good, the ring should go back the way it was. If the bezel movement was poor or stiff, flipping the vertical orientation of the ring is a well known attempted fix. Sometimes the factory installs these upside down by mistake.

 

[antonygr]

Nearly all hytrel rings have a correct vertical orientation. Usually it is with the larger diameter step facing upward, toward the insert.

There are some variations to this orientation, and some rings that have a symmetrical top to bottom shape. That's why it's important to note the hytrel ring's vertical orientation before removing it from the groove. If the bezel movement was good, the ring should go back the way it was. If the bezel movement was poor or stiff, flipping the vertical orientation of the ring is a well known attempted fix. Sometimes the factory installs these upside down by mistake.

I thought that the hard bezel action was just what was needed. so I flipped it vertically.

 

[antonygr]

If the bezel moves slowly from the factory, is it a fault that the ring was installed at the factory? and the bezel should move very easily?

 

[antonygr]

I thought this would be the shape of the ring after installation. Before installation it has an even height

 

[antonygr]

It seems to me that before installation at the factory the ring has different heights.

 

[antonygr]

If I set it up like this, will it affect anything?

 

[antonygr]

Photo after fix.

 

[antonygr]

Nearly all hytrel rings have a correct vertical orientation. Usually it is with the larger diameter step facing upward, toward the insert.

There are some variations to this orientation, and some rings that have a symmetrical top to bottom shape. That's why it's important to note the hytrel ring's vertical orientation before removing it from the groove. If the bezel movement was good, the ring should go back the way it was. If the bezel movement was poor or stiff, flipping the vertical orientation of the ring is a well known attempted fix. Sometimes the factory installs these upside down by mistake.

The shape as in your photo The ring takes on the first pressing

 

[KJ2020]

The bezel should be firm but not hard to move. It should not move by itself or by casual contact with a shirt or coat sleeve, or during a repositioning of the watch on the wrist if loosely gripping the bezel. It should not have any loose play, but it should be able to be turned without difficulty using one hand while on the wrist. If you have achieved this goal, then it really doesn't matter what your hytrel ring looks like or which way it's oriented. If you haven't reached this goal, then go fish, haha.

 

[antonygr]

I made it so that it has some play and works fine.

 

[antonygr]

I hope my advice will help someone on the forum