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A new maker is coming with a very nice first try, the 441

The Tourist

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True, if the gen has it, I'd expect the rep also to have it ...in an ideal case though ;).
What I previously meant was more from a pure personal design point of view. Hence I also don't appreciate the silver lug-screw in the gen either.
Hope you don't mind, and anyway, from the looks, this VSF rep is astonishing! Now let's see if the mechanical part can keep up with the optics.

Looking very much forward to an "in-depth" review ;)
 

paulvillo

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I wonder why Andrew is saying it's a TrustyTime exclusive when all the other TDs have it as well? :lol:

Not just that mate, but Andrew also claims the VSF 441 has a "Reliable custom superclone P9001 movement tested for more than 1 year"

Would love to see the Bronzo and plenty of open casebacks PAMs that should benefit from this movement.

Apart from a couple of gears visible at 1 and 3, this is waaaaaay better than those faux escapements looking at me in the eye :lol:
 

mysterio

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Not just that mate, but Andrew also claims the VSF 441 has a "Reliable custom superclone P9001 movement tested for more than 1 year"

Would love to see the Bronzo and plenty of open casebacks PAMs that should benefit from this movement.

Apart from a couple of gears visible at 1 and 3, this is waaaaaay better than those faux escapements looking at me in the eye :lol:

Well, I heard that the first rep with the updated P.9000 movement is coming out soon. Not the bronzo though (I am waiting for that as well). ;)
 

924er

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I just got mine. Very nice. I noticed a minor flaw in the center where the hands meet but other than that it's good. Only bothers me cuz I wanted it to be perfect as it was advertised. I might swap the hands out just for fun. Anyone know where I can find replacements? Does it require the movement to be taken off or I can work on it from the top?

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PAM1983

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I just got mine. Very nice. I noticed a minor flaw in the center where the hands meet but other than that it's good. Only bothers me cuz I wanted it to be perfect as it was advertised. I might swap the hands out just for fun. Anyone know where I can find replacements? Does it require the movement to be taken off or I can work on it from the top?

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Is it real ceramic? Or did I miss that conversation in this thread already ?


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924er

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Is it real ceramic? Or did I miss that conversation in this thread already ?


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Yeah it's real ceramic. Or that's what they claim at lease


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I just got mine. Very nice. I noticed a minor flaw in the center where the hands meet but other than that it's good. Only bothers me cuz I wanted it to be perfect as it was advertised. I might swap the hands out just for fun. Anyone know where I can find replacements? Does it require the movement to be taken off or I can work on it from the top?

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Newbie question... what's the flaw? I'm holding out for an in depth review too, but if they were my QC pics, I think I might have missed it. Is it a manufacturing or design/replica flaw?

Cheers in advance! :)
 

Pam-am

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been waiting for a black piece and this might work. but just really worried about the movement. do let us know how it is please! wear it well guys! :)))))
 

chris9

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I have been wearing this for a week now, even working on a construction site and so far my movement has been running strong and not missed a beat.
Only issue I had was on arrival, the 3 small screws holding the rotor on all needed to be tightened.
I have learnt to check all rotor, lug and CG screws on any new Rep before wearing..........
 

924er

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First day wearing my VSF. My first replica watch. I've only seen the 111 gen in person. This feels different. The band is very tight and inflexible but that's probably. I set the time and date. Didn't know how the operate the GMT but I'll try later.

Other than that. It's fine guess. The band isn't all that perfect but the case and dial are flawless. My movement looked greyed out and not silver like the others I've seen.
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924er

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Oh yeah forgot to mention. There is absolutely no AR coating at all. Not sure if it's supposed to be this way but I can use this watch as a mirror


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ALE7575

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You see grey the movement due to the smoked back crystal
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924er

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You see grey the movement due to the smoked back crystal
ALE

Why isn't the other one posted before me not smoked out? Both are VSF. Not sure how the gen looks


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chris3007

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This is how the gen 441 looks. A silver P.9001 movement with a smoked back crystal

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And this is how the new rep looks

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A silver P.9001 clone and a smoked crystal.
But it looks a bit brighter at the pic because of the flash light.
 

924er

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This is how the gen 441 looks. A silver P.9001 movement with a smoked back crystal

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And this is how the new rep looks

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A silver P.9001 clone and a smoked crystal.
But it looks a bit brighter at the pic because of the flash light.

Is the gen supposed to have AR coating?


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chris3007

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My first impression of the new P.9001 clone.... the movement looks really good.

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The finish is at the same level as the P.3000 clone and my first guess is, both clone movements are made in the same factory.
Materials and finishing looks very similar