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A new maker is coming with a very nice first try, the 441

nickt

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If PR doesn't work so why on first pictures in this tread there is almost "empty" and on 5 page is shown as almost full charged??
Is this mean that you could get watch with different position of PR??
In V6F there is always on half.
 

mysterio

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which is better? v6f or vsf?


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You mean the PAM441? Well, without the detailed review, I would say the PAM441 from the new factory. Because I can't see any visual difference between the case for the V6F offering and that for VSF. But the movement clearly has VSF winning by a landslide. So until a definitive review arrives which shoots down this assessment, I'd say VSF wins this.
 

ALE7575

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Leaving aside the movement the watch is the same
If the new movement is reliable enough the VSF will be the better option

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Br10_asp

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I am comparing my V6F 438 against this... am I the only one who see a bit strange the CG of that VSF??? I mean, it looks like the pusher it is not fitted correctly in the CG and finishing (in photos) looks a bit better in my KW and even the engravings ... what do you think?
 

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I am comparing my V6F 438 against this... am I the only one who see a bit strange the CG of that VSF??? I mean, it looks like the pusher it is not fitted correctly in the CG and finishing (in photos) looks a bit better in my KW and even the engravings ... what do you think?

Pusher? I don't understand what you mean. Probably better by posting pictures of your V6F PAM438 against the images of the VSF PAM441.
 

Br10_asp

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Pusher? I don't understand what you mean. Probably better by posting pictures of your V6F PAM438 against the images of the VSF PAM441.

My fault, I didn't explain it well. I will try to post pics but I said the pusher instead of the lever. In the pictures showing side by side gen vs VSF I saw a bit strange how fits in the CG the lever in VSF (even I see a gap between lever and the CG when lever is closed/pushed in those pictures). Looking to my KW 438, for example, and the pictures of the beginning I see that my lever and the gen's lever fits perfect in the CG. Maybe is only because of the quality of the pictures...
 

mysterio

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My fault, I didn't explain it well. I will try to post pics but I said the pusher instead of the lever. In the pictures showing side by side gen vs VSF I saw a bit strange how fits in the CG the lever in VSF (even I see a gap between lever and the CG when lever is closed/pushed in those pictures). Looking to my KW 438, for example, and the pictures of the beginning I see that my lever and the gen's lever fits perfect in the CG. Maybe is only because of the quality of the pictures...

So where are the pictures of your CG and lever when it's closed? We should have an idea of how a perfect fitting lever will look like. ;)
 

indywatchguy

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Is this worth the risk of a new from scratch Asian movement?


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liq2

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I've got this sitting in a cart ready to pull the trigger. Has anyone seen on in the flesh yet?
 

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Imho Big give out on this rep... on the window date you can see a white line between the dial and the movement due to its sandwich dial... the 328/441 has it... can anyone else see it?


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I've got this sitting in a cart ready to pull the trigger. Has anyone seen on in the flesh yet?

I have in my hands the sample some days ago
I have not checked the movement, just the comments above mentioned
The appearance of the rest is really impressive the same as my V6Fac ceramic 438 and 441 watches

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ALE7575

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Imho Big give out on this rep... on the window date you can see a white line between the dial and the movement due to its sandwich dial... the 328/441 has it... can anyone else see it?


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As you can see in the pics from Chris the gen has also the withe line (maybe not as evident, but it is there)

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