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A new maker is coming with a very nice first try, the 441

chris9

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My new 438 ceramic bracelet should be here in acouple of days. Looking forward to fitting it.
 

filletero

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Just pulled the trigger on this bad boy through chazingtime!


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Nomadenjoe

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I have ordered this nice watch today through Zafod / Chazing!
Nice contact with him .
Hope i receive it asap!
 

bangsters

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A bit disappointed... looks like my TD won't be able to ship before CNY... any other vendor that can ship before CNY? Mid Feb will be when they ship if I pull the trigger today.
 

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Been a long time lurker here in the forums and finally pulled the trigger on the VSF PAM 441 last December. After almost a month of use, I have to say that the movement is quite accurate to +5 per week after tuning it. If I have to nitpick, the shortfall is in the power reserve where it's max is roughly around 30 hours. Still, I am extremely happy, and I highly recommend this [emoji1303]

Does anyone know if the leather will hold up as per genuine?


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It holds up but the colors start to fade. They are meant to look a little beat up. My friend has a gen and it looks the same although his strap is holding up better.


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bangsters

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It holds up but the colors start to fade. They are meant to look a little beat up. My friend has a gen and it looks the same although his strap is holding up better.


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Hey, your friend has a gen 441, is he able to tell the difference with your vsf 441, or nearly indistinguishable?
 

924er

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Hey, your friend has a gen 441, is he able to tell the difference with your vsf 441, or nearly indistinguishable?

Nope. But the movement is a lot different but u have to compare them side by side. He thought mine was a gen until I told him. He wasn't very interested really. He's not like us. Just a rich doctor. You can check out side by side pics on a TD site called intime01.co and click on the news. It's called "correct position of pam441"


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924er

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Been a long time lurker here in the forums and finally pulled the trigger on the VSF PAM 441 last December. After almost a month of use, I have to say that the movement is quite accurate to +5 per week after tuning it. If I have to nitpick, the shortfall is in the power reserve where it's max is roughly around 30 hours. Still, I am extremely happy, and I highly recommend this [emoji1303]

Does anyone know if the leather will hold up as per genuine?


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Interesting. Mine is +2/day which is amazing. I haven't wore it for over 50 hours and it's still ticking. U sure it was fully winded?


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bangsters

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Nope. But the movement is a lot different but u have to compare them side by side. He thought mine was a gen until I told him. He wasn't very interested really. He's not like us. Just a rich doctor. You can check out side by side pics on a TD site called intime01.co and click on the news. It's called "correct position of pam441"


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thanks for the link. Now if only someone does the same comparison of the VSF PAM 312 with the Gen that would be sweet.
 

gooseman

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as long as you accept that its a rep, you like the looks, you trust the movement, do we really need a comparison with the gens? just a thought [emoji4].. or what is the purpose of comparing with gens, please enlighten me..


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bangsters

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as long as you accept that its a rep, you like the looks, you trust the movement, do we really need a comparison with the gens? just a thought [emoji4].. or what is the purpose of comparing with gens, please enlighten me..


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I guess it's the same with VSF 441, trying to get the rep as close to gen as possible. An to be able to see of the improvements of the VSF model compared to the other 312s. As much as I'm ok with a rep, I would still not prefer not to be called out that i'm wearing a rep.
 

bangsters

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Took the plunge and pulled the trigger. Ordered 1x vsf pam 441 and 1x zf pam 1312 from chazingtime. Awesome people to deal with.