Is there any engraving on the movement or just print? It looks like the “3” is already fading. Other than that I’m curious to a comparison with ZF.
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[3K factory] PP Aquanaut 5167 rep vs. gen
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ksbreitling
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Great looking piece. I'm really impressed with the movement. Crazy how far things have come in the past 10 years.
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215 is indeed a low amplitude and could indicate a movement issue : either simply dirty or could be worse, watchfinder wouldn't take any chance on it, you know how he is strict on his QC
For info, the gen movement is considered to be normal if around 255° or higher
Learnt something new and to look out for
The lift angle on a PP 324SC is 54 . If the 3K movement is indeed a clone, one would expect it to be also 54. ( we can't just assume it would be 52, there is no reason to assume this )
As is the usual case TD timegraph lift angles are always set at 52 because it is the most common.
However the reading most affected ( although not massively affected ) by incorrect lift angle is amplitude. I would therefore not regard too much a reading from a Td's timegrapher.
I have ordered this watch myself, although I don't expect to receive it before mid Feb, due to CNY. When i receive it I will measure the lift angle and check the amplitude. I will also post a full review with photos as I am back now after a very complicated year
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stanevo6
computer says no
The lift angle on a PP 324SC is 54 . If the 3K movement is indeed a clone, one would expect it to be also 54. ( we can't just assume it would be 52, there is no reason to assume this )
As is the usual case TD timegraph lift angles are always set at 52 because it is the most common.
However the reading most affected ( although not massively affected ) by incorrect lift angle is amplitude. I would therefore not regard too much a reading from a Td's timegrapher.
I have ordered this watch myself, although I don't expect to receive it before mid Feb, due to CNY. When i receive it I will measure the lift angle and check the amplitude. I will also post a full review with photos as I am back now after a very complicated year
Welcome back, appreciate the sharing and review as always
gilrob
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The lift angle on a PP 324SC is 54 . If the 3K movement is indeed a clone, one would expect it to be also 54. ( we can't just assume it would be 52, there is no reason to assume this )
As is the usual case TD timegraph lift angles are always set at 52 because it is the most common.
However the reading most affected ( although not massively affected ) by incorrect lift angle is amplitude. I would therefore not regard too much a reading from a Td's timegrapher.
I have ordered this watch myself, although I don't expect to receive it before mid Feb, due to CNY. When i receive it I will measure the lift angle and check the amplitude. I will also post a full review with photos as I am back now after a very complicated year
That will be a review a lot of folks looks forward to reading. Welcome back.
If i recall correctly, i think the gen 324 movement should have a gradual date change instead of an instant flip?
Unless I missed something and we are hoping that the date change in the clone 324 movement to be as gradual as the gen
Some sources have indicated that the gen 324 movement's date change is gradual (e.g., https://chpremier.com/index.php?rout...ormation_id=32 and https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=444126) and the date change mechanism on the 324 looks similar to the ETA 2824-2 / 2892 style (hence there are forbidden hours; e.g., https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=284212)
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Yeah the gen is slow roll, starts around 11.45 from what I’ve managed to find. This clone starts at 11 from what others have said.
Interesting reminder of how a cloned movement could easily become more reliable than the original. Regarding Patek, this really wouldn't be too difficult. Don't want to sound like an iconoclast but PP don't have the best reliability record and like many makers , rest on their laurels.