3135 Movement - Genuine or Super Clone?

[Maegga1979]

Hi all,

please take a look at this movement. What do you think. Is it real or are the super clones already in this high level.

It’s a Rolex 3135

 

[auteur]

My guess is either it's gen or it had the balance bridge replaced with a gen one.

 

[Yogibear]

Why is it so dirty?

 

[SS72]

I'm a million miles away from being a reliable source of information on Rolex movements, but I think it's real. Why? Because I've been staring at these for the past 45+ minutes:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/9374739-vsf-3135-movement-pics-watch
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...n-vs-gen-3135-some-additional-pics-for-v2-sub
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...72-vsf-new-vs3135-movement-release-and-review

Still doesn't explain why the movement has hair from a doormat or orange pubes in it.

Hopefully someone can confirm . . . the former part, that is.

 

[TESLA760]

Be careful. My Franken 116613 has a movement that's 90% genuine.

 

[SS72]

Be careful. My Franken 116613 has a movement that's 90% genuine.

Indeed! But, in reference to the initial question: "s it real or are the super clones already in this high level." An out-of-the-box super clone vs a franken movement?... Different question entirely.

This is why I buy the seller when it comes to gens. Too damn risky nowadays.

 

[TESLA760]

Same here. On Gens I buy only from people I know. Even reps are not safe. I buy and sell at times here. But I do so based on who I'm dealing with.

 

[Tucker]

My guess is either it's gen or it had the balance bridge replaced with a gen one.

^^^^^ This….I believe it’s genuine or the balance bridge has been replaced. However, if you buy or don’t buy a movement/watch based upon my opinion you’re a fool.

 

[p0pperini]

I'm with Tucker, on both counts (by which I mean, never trust my opinion - not that it's best to disregard his).

I want to hear more of the backstory to the OP's question. Context is always a useful contributing factor. Unless this is just one of those "test the experts" posts that appears from time to time. In which case, better lit pictures that aren't largely digitally zoomed and sharpened would have helped. As would the removal of Gingabubba's distracting pubes.

 

[Maegga1979]

This is the watch that has the movement in.

I have an opportunity to buy it at a fair market price, but it is without history and papers.

 

[Maegga1979]

These are the pictures.

 

[kadeee]

It is definately not a Super Clone movement as it has a gen balance construction. This might fit also within some VS movements but also the engravings are different. Let's have a look on this pics:

And as you said, Franken movements are something different.

I think that this is not a Franken watch, it looks reliable. If papers are missing go to an AD before buying it to get the authenticity of the watch verified. Possibly it has been stolen somewhere if the price is too good. That would be my worst concerns.

 

[srssrs]

Where can I purchase one

 

[derjenigewelcher]

buy the seller not the watch - period

 

[Ralphista]

Hi, on a YT’s video I posted some months ago in this forum . An expert watchmaker explain very clearly how to spot a perfect ( a Clean Factory in that case ) Rollie Superclone and teaches how to distinguish it from an original . The video already shows how spot a superclone WITHOUT TO OPEN the watch . But opening differences was immediately apparent almost in my opinion . The principal fact is the genuine movement hasn’t all that radial lines (if it were a dial they would make it a "soleil" one ) on the plates due to metal processing or its carving . A genuine movement is all perfectly smooth at this visual enlargement too . Then he explain there are some little different missing particulars too . This is only my opinion, obviously . If i find rapidly the video, i repost it . Have a nice day .

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Hi, on a YT’s video I posted some months ago in this forum . An expert watchmaker explain very clearly how to spot a perfect ( a Clean Factory in that case ) Rollie Superclone and teaches how to distinguish it from an original . The video already shows how spot a superclone WITHOUT TO OPEN the watch . But opening differences was immediately apparent almost in my opinion . The principal fact is the genuine movement hasn’t all that radial lines (if it were a dial they would make it a "soleil" one ) on the plates due to metal processing or its carving . A genuine movement is all perfectly smooth at this visual enlargement too . Then he explain there are some little different missing particulars too . This is only my opinion, obviously . If i find rapidly the video, i repost it . Have a nice day .

Thanks for your input mate. Movement parts all can be bought spare easy and replaced (except mainplate afaik).

 

[Ralphista]

Thanks for your input mate. Movement parts all can be bought spare easy and replaced (except mainplate afaik).

Hi, anyway I mean plates e rotor, sorry . Then, if someone changes all them the watch becomes a Franken … . Greetings .

 

[kadeee]

Where can I purchase one

Purchase what?