Clean Factory New Submariner Series Review (Incl. Comparison Pics vs Gen)

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I think much of the point is that many of folks buying these have never had a real one, they don't know what a real Genuine watch is like, they just compare one rep to the other. Let me tell you that the VSF is the only replica I have handled that FEELS genuine and has a build quality to match. Noob, ZZF/clean, ARF, whatever other, they all FEEL like fake watches, hand one to someone that knows how a real watch is and they'll call in in a second. Hand a VSF 116610 to a genuine owner and he will be none the wiser..

You know what in fact.. go buy Clean, and ARF and Noob and ROF and sponsor V1 through V11, shave your fingernails with the bracelet edges and make a fool of yourself when a genuine owner sees a shit rep on your wrist that you think is great because it's V5. Leave the VSF's for those that know what's best.:yoda:

You’re so full of shit that your eyes are brown.


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[Tijdwijzer]

You’re so full of shit that your eyes are brown.

This made me laugh:jerry:

 

[stufuse]

Do you have any idea what is on the edge of this VSF bracelet link?

Hint: from my nail......


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This is exactly what I found, no difference in the bracelet edges. Typical rep
Bracelet.

Also, The pictorial shoot out review fails to pick up the vsf indices lume shade, its a shade or two lighter than the Gens next to it. Then the vsf hands that are another 2 shades lighter than its indices. Can see it in the pictures but no ‘red means bad’ to highlight it


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[PAMorROLEX]

:vegdance: I do love the Clean factory logo, that one is hilarious... pulled the trigger right away


ZZF Fanboys vs VSF Fanboys doing .....:itchyandscratchy:

Is there a way to make peace in between you two both? ZZF factory doesn't exist anymore, VSF is nothing without the Clean Factory inserts.. so can we agree to love both and leave aggressive behaviour here?

Yes its one of the best ones OTB you can get I had the V2 and have V2S right now (below pic).

And to stay on topic here's a Clean I have inbound:

 

[stufuse]

Do you have any idea what is on the edge of this VSF bracelet link?

Hint: from my nail......


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This is exactly what I found, no difference in the bracelet edges. Typical rep
Bracelet.

Also, The pictorial shoot out review fails to pick up the vsf indices lume shade, its a shade or two lighter than the Gens next to it. Then the vsf hands that are another 2 shades lighter than its indices. Can see it in the pictures but no ‘red means bad’ to highlight it


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[macarone]

:vegdance: I do love the Clean factory logo, that one is hilarious... pulled the trigger right away


ZZF Fanboys vs VSF Fanboys doing .....:itchyandscratchy:

Is there a way to make peace in between you two both? ZZF factory doesn't exist anymore, VSF is nothing without the Clean Factory inserts.. so can we agree to love both and leave aggressive behaviour here?

Not at war or any factory fanboy at that, I own a bit of them all. You’re right on that logo lol! I think I may Contact my TD.......

 

[muiramas]

I had to do a lot of re-finishing on the VSF clasp - it was really sharp, especially around the flip lock. The inside edges of the bracelet are also sharp, and without dismantling it its a tough fix. So yeah, if you know sharp edges a hall mark of a rep, you won't be fooled. The best bracelets I have had in this respect continue to be ARF.

I'm really happy with my VSF 116610, but there is certainly room for improvement. If Clean make a better rep then its good for everyone.

 

[wildhunter84]

CF has finally arrived

ZZF V3 (left) vs CF (right) first impression

Bezel teeth on ZZF is horrible
The bezel turning tightness has also been fixed on the CF
Rehaut, crystal, dial, hands visibility is so much better

Picture doesn't do it justice

 

[sukwonee]

wildhunter84

Thank you for this side by side.

On the 4th Pic (where you show the CGs) is the new Clean version on top or bottom?

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[wildhunter84]

wildhunter84

Thank you for this side by side.

On the 4th Pic (where you show the CGs) is the new Clean version on top or bottom?

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top is ZZF
btm wrapped watch is clean

 

[sukwonee]

Looks like Clean made the hands more 3D too.

 

[wildhunter84]

Looks like Clean made the hands more 3D too.

Yep, I agree too. Seeing both side by side, I cannot unsee what was on the ZZF anymore. Furthermore clean has a lower price point

 

[BOSSK]

Clean hands look way better. Overall looks more refined, does it feel like a more refined offering in hand?

 

[wildhunter84]

Clean hands look way better. Overall looks more refined, does it feel like a more refined offering in hand?

It does only if you have a comparison

 

[mrsullivan]

That CF looks really good thank you for the comparison. Nice SELs m, and those hands are much better. Looks like a very good new offer in the 114060 range, if not the best so far.
A deep insight with closer pictures would be great.

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[Stuessi]

So clean or vsf at the moment?

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[Replisimio]

The bezel on the ZZF is awful. I’ve had a few and never had one with teeth like that but hands on the clean look very good but no matter what they do to them they’ll never be white gold and it’s a very obvious tell regardless of shape.


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[the_don_robinson]

I do like a no date sub !!! Was going to wait to see if VSF produced one but that clean looks pretty decent !

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[Subdued]

These people have bionic eyes? What's the difference with the hands? Lol

 

[Akilles]

These people have bionic eyes? What's the difference with the hands? Lol

Yes. Many rep people knows details of a gen Rolex far better than a normal gen owner, for real.

Never ending talk about 3D-hands and 0,01 mm hairsplitting about SEL-fit and lets not forget if a letter is wrong in the rehaut-serial.

I have a gen 116613LB and love it but have never noticed those things.

Also love my reps just as much