Wrong hand stacks

[ryantunna]

The only time I can notice the hs is when the hands cross


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[occb2]

That is exactly what it is suppose to look like...... LOL. "I'm BATMAN!!!"

 

[Raddave]

That is exactly what it is suppose to look like...... LOL. "I'm BATMAN!!!"

 

[occb2]

LMAO!!!!

 

[R2L]

A beauty. Wear it in good health. Love the pepsi. It is classic.

Thank you! It is an easily recognizable classic! Can't way to see yours!


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[PHILIP74]

I wondered how this thread got to 4 pages... handbags... lol

Watched this short video yesterday as it happens from a 'reputable' watch chanel of a 1675 gmt clearly showing an ICHS.

Is this some kind of franken or a streight replica guys? To me the dial, insert and seconds hand movement look awful but I'm far from expert. Plus is this how lowbeats look up close?

This Watch is replica ,gen or Franken?

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[Dusk]

This Watch is replica ,gen or Franken?

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I'm told reliably this is GEN! Correct hand stack for this period mate

 

[ryantunna]

That is exactly what it is suppose to look like...... LOL. "I'm BATMAN!!!"

Yeah it's a gen. But rarely can you notice the handstack was my point, only when they cross over


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[d4m.test]

Imho it clearly depends where You are looking at and what You specialize in. Long before trying to check the handstack I´ve looked at the bezel insert nrs./recessment and shine, cyclops black hole or bluish tint, center second hand pin hole or closed. Others will have checked the pearl/triangle and the shape/position of the crown on the dial and yet others specialize on checking the shape of the crownguards, the crown itself and the SEL-fit. Only some will be able to spot the handstack at a glance.
It is only in this context that imho the handstack should be the least of worries because long before You arrive at the handstack You have spotted other things.

To really enjoy the rep without prejudice as a nice looking and well working GMT (and save Yourself of the troubles/worries a $10.000 or $20.000 watch on the wrist carry with them) just don´t read too much and don´t specialize Middle class car owners don´t need to worry about being spotted and London subway users at rush hour have enough spare to afford the gen.

 

[R2L]

Real or Gen? Hard to tell!

 

[jamilton]

You know, for me the ICHS is more noticeable in white dial ones. I am about to pull the trigger on a Explorer 16570 Polar, but IMHO, the ICHS is not only noticeable when the hour hand cross over the GMT hand. The problem is, that due to the fact that the GMT hand is at the bottom, it has to be a little bent to avoid touching the lume dots. That creates a permanent shadow to the GMT hand over the white dial. But this shadow is IMHO opinion it could be avoided choosing the black dial one (although I like more the polar one... but now I see always this "bent GMT hand" on each ICHS rolex I see..)



So, would you go for the polar with CHS (if any TD still have it available) or for a ICHS but black dial, assuming that this "bent GMT" reflecting on the white dial is for me really a noticeable flaw.. I rejected some months ago the piece above because of this lumpy greenish lume dots bur also for the very noticeable "bent GMT hand"

besides the reliability of an ICHS os a CHS is there any difference on the way to adjust the GMT hand, date change and so on?

thanks for your feedback !

 

[richhomie]

Well, not hard at all! Wide hand base and also ICHS. Dispite the thin bezel numbers.

 

[richhomie]

/\ like i said above /\

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[d4m.test]

The 16570 is still one of my fav. reps, it´s got a lot of other factors going for it: "inexpensive" 2nd hand gen, reliability, excellent power reserve, 2nd time zone functionality, "stealth"- look, it passes easily for not being a Rolex, white dial amongst dozens of black dials, very easy and slim on the wrist, one of the thinnest Rolex reps available, fantastic lume and excellent day or night readability.....
It´s just a very good watch - and like that may be as good or better than some others "that are closer to gen".
ICHS

 

[rj999]

I have the white face 42mm Explorer II and it remains one of my favourites, despite the incorrect hand stack. The blue lume on the white face looks incredible. I also now have a PAM228 Firenze GMT, which has the same movement. I suppose this means its hand stack is also wrong. But that's trivial frankly.

 

[mauricio612]

The beginning of this thread is just awesome, sometimes it's nice to revive old threads

 

[jamilton]

You know, for me the ICHS is more noticeable in white dial ones. I am about to pull the trigger on a Explorer 16570 Polar, but IMHO, the ICHS is not only noticeable when the hour hand cross over the GMT hand. The problem is, that due to the fact that the GMT hand is at the bottom, it has to be a little bent to avoid touching the lume dots. That creates a permanent shadow to the GMT hand over the white dial. But this shadow is IMHO opinion it could be avoided choosing the black dial one (although I like more the polar one... but now I see always this "bent GMT hand" on each ICHS rolex I see..)



So, would you go for the polar with CHS (if any TD still have it available) or for a ICHS but black dial, assuming that this "bent GMT" reflecting on the white dial is for me really a noticeable flaw.. I rejected some months ago the piece above because of this lumpy greenish lume dots bur also for the very noticeable "bent GMT hand"

besides the reliability of an ICHS os a CHS is there any difference on the way to adjust the GMT hand, date change and so on?

thanks for your feedback !

Finally got this beauty!

 

[occb2]

I am one for the correct hand stack. I personally like it and the whole jumping hour hand and no quick set. To me it just brings the rawness out of a Rolex GMT. But when people are buying $300 dollar clones I wouldn't really worry about it. It is very hard to see. Twice a day in fact. Enjoy them. I think that the white one is classy for the summer while the black is more of a business look. They both look ga

 

[trailboss99]

I've said it a year ago in thuis thread and I'll say it again:

Hand stack . . . meah . . .

The only person who would notice is another rep WIS or someone waaaay into your personal space.

I have a polar EXP II myself and ICHS or not I love it to death, its become a favorite beater and the minor scuffs and scars only improve its rugged good looks IMHO.

 

[occb2]

[MENTION=11620]trailboss99[/MENTION] have Mike make you a 3185 movement out of a yuki. I have a real 3185 movement and a 3185 hybrid Mike made me. They both work the same way. I though at first that it was a big pain in the butt when I had to adjust the gmt hand with the min hand and jump the hours with the hour hand until the date was correct. Then Now I go to a GMT eta or clone that I am working on and it feels different. A lot easier than a Rolex but I think the way it works gives the 3185 character.

Oh and also that above statement will also work with an invicta. You can put an Invicta 2 feet away and it will look like a Rolex. 4 Feet same. To me a watch is what I am wearing for me and my enjoyment. Not for the enjoyment of others. Great example is the GMT Mike made me. I wear it and think of all the work Mike did on a movement from China that is a copy of an amazing movement. Then that he fit swiss Rolex parts onto it and made it works as a Rolex movement. I look at it and I think of the insert that I got from [MENTION=95825]SERCIONS[/MENTION] that I installed on the 4th of July after having it for months because it went with the day. LOL. I think of the brand new Service dial I found on ebay in England for it that took for ever to get here. The chop shop band with SEL hollow link Rolex sub straps on my GMT clasp. All the person sees next to me is red and blue on a watch.

Each one means something different to me. If I don't have a connection I sell it.