Crazy 5712 by SWF and VSV cal. 240 Super Clone

[Happyyeren]

For $500 this is fine. I think people forget they're paying $500 for a watch. Keep this in mind again.....

If you're obsessed about the details I suggest a CNC case build with the SW dial and all the goodies. It will run you $2K+ but if you're ADHD about this stuff it's worth it for you.

Each to their own, just pointing out the obvious flaws

 

[Fefe]

this is what i mean by the lugs, in pictures its very obvious. The bezel and narrow polish side is also obvious.

i do agree that at wrist distance its impossible to tell. even the stock dial would pass at a distance specially you would be moving and nobody will stare at your watch for more than a few second

As a newbie on the rep scene, I would like to say that I learn, read, observe, and compare every rep to gens so much that I have learned how to notice every little detail. If I look at a gen everyday for hours and look at a rep I'm interested in, yes, I notice the smallest detail. I ask myself if that small detail is enough to bother me, or is it enough to make someone call me out on my rep. So far, I haven't had comments about my reps. Just gawks. In the end, it is really about whether or not the individual can carry it off. If someone sees your nice watch but they don't think you have the class or money to pull it off, they will automatically be suspicious.

I had an ex with a Rolex years ago. His watch looked good, but when he took it off and held it, I could feel the weight of the watch, I knew it was fake because it was too light and felt hollow. I asked about it and he never answered the question. I didn't know much about reps at the time, but I did have my own gen watch from a well-known luxury jeweler and the weight of my watch was heavier than his watch that cost 1000's more. Since finding this site about a year ago, I think the more a person knows about watches, the more likely they will be to purchase reps. In my opinion, it doesn't make common sense to spend 1000s or 10s of 1000s to buy something I can get more easily at a lower cost, even if it isn't EXACT. If you like a watch, you like a watch. Quality is important, but only a fool purchases what they can't really afford.

I believe in quality and will still buy gens, but if I get reps, that's nobody's business. I buy reps FOR ME. I'm not a con artist trying to swindle people out of money. BTW...there are no judgements from me here. I just wanted to share my two cents.

 

[Happyyeren]

As a newbie on the rep scene, I would like to say that I learn, read, observe, and compare every rep to gens so much that I have learned how to notice every little detail. If I look at a gen everyday for hours and look at a rep I'm interested in, yes, I notice the smallest detail. I ask myself if that small detail is enough to bother me, or is it enough to make someone call me out on my rep. So far, I haven't had comments about my reps. Just gawks. In the end, it is really about whether or not the individual can carry it off. If someone sees your nice watch but they don't think you have the class or money to pull it off, they will automatically be suspicious.

I had an ex with a Rolex years ago. His watch looked good, but when he took it off and held it, I could feel the weight of the watch, I knew it was fake because it was too light and felt hollow. I asked about it and he never answered the question. I didn't know much about reps at the time, but I did have my own gen watch from a well-known luxury jeweler and the weight of my watch was heavier than his watch that cost 1000's more. Since finding this site about a year ago, I think the more a person knows about watches, the more likely they will be to purchase reps. In my opinion, it doesn't make common sense to spend 1000s or 10s of 1000s to buy something I can get more easily at a lower cost, even if it isn't EXACT. If you like a watch, you like a watch. Quality is important, but only a fool purchases what they can't really afford.

I believe in quality and will still buy gens, but if I get reps, that's nobody's business. I buy reps FOR ME. I'm not a con artist trying to swindle people out of money. BTW...there are no judgements from me here. I just wanted to share my two cents.

Rep will always be a rep, no matter how hard we try it will always be different. I think the joy in this rep game is to try as hard to be as close to a gen as possible. Some may overlook details but some will want as close as possible. I dont think anyone can pass off a rep as gen, people dont really buy expensive watches without having it authenticated. Now if the purpose is to show off and make people think you own a gen, then i think everyone here is guilty of that unless you keep your reps at home only for your own eyes. The moment you wear it outside, its already ”faking” it as a gen.

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

Hey guys, I’m new to this forum. And I have been in the market for my first rep. And I have been looking at CT with the fully loaded option with 22k gold priced at $3988. I have a few gen watches that I had bought before and around covid which than crashed and now I’m negative on these watches I bought. Which makes me super upset! Anyways back to CT. I read through this post and didn’t see anyone talk about the 22k gold. Is it not worth it? I see that @dogwood does builds. And I also know @Spongebob does builds! I want to purchase a 5712 and I want it to be as close as possible to the gen.

So I guess my question is do I just buy from CT and call it a day or am I better off having someone build it for me? I don’t mind spending money but I just can’t buy the gen at this moment.

 

[Reaps]

Hey guys, I’m new to this forum. And I have been in the market for my first rep. And I have been looking at CT with the fully loaded option with 22k gold priced at $3988. I have a few gen watches that I had bought before and around covid which than crashed and now I’m negative on these watches I bought. Which makes me super upset! Anyways back to CT. I read through this post and didn’t see anyone talk about the 22k gold. Is it not worth it? I see that @dogwood does builds. And I also know @Spongebob does builds! I want to purchase a 5712 and I want it to be as close as possible to the gen.

So I guess my question is do I just buy from CT and call it a day or am I better off having someone build it for me? I don’t mind spending money but I just can’t buy the gen at this moment.

No way you're getting a gold case 5712 for just $4k. The price of gold case alone is already more than that.

 

[jsizzle]

The issue with the $3988 gold version is the free sprung movement has been reported as unreliable from other respected members (in this thread even, you have this, and this). If you're dead set on the 22k gold, then modding is probably your path.

Hey guys, I’m new to this forum. And I have been in the market for my first rep. And I have been looking at CT with the fully loaded option with 22k gold priced at $3988. I have a few gen watches that I had bought before and around covid which than crashed and now I’m negative on these watches I bought. Which makes me super upset! Anyways back to CT. I read through this post and didn’t see anyone talk about the 22k gold. Is it not worth it? I see that @dogwood does builds. And I also know @Spongebob does builds! I want to purchase a 5712 and I want it to be as close as possible to the gen.

So I guess my question is do I just buy from CT and call it a day or am I better off having someone build it for me? I don’t mind spending money but I just can’t buy the gen at this moment.

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

No way you're getting a gold case 5712 for just $4k. The price of gold case alone is already more than that.

Sorry let me rephrase, on CT they are listing as an option the following

Optional upgrade to 22K gold cnc automatic rotor, the original factory weight can achieve the best winding effect, Swiss imported diamond cutter head engraving brand LOGO, perfectly restore the original factory visual sense

 

[Reaps]

Sorry let me rephrase, on CT they are listing as an option the following

Optional upgrade to 22K gold cnc automatic rotor, the original factory weight can achieve the best winding effect, Swiss imported diamond cutter head engraving brand LOGO, perfectly restore the original factory visual sense

My strongest opinion for you is to go through TWM, Popup or AMF to do this build. All 3 are vendors here. Pricey and you will have to wait a while they arent fast but more control.

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

The issue with the $3988 gold version is the free sprung movement has been reported as unreliable from other respected members (in this thread even, you have this, and this). If you're dead set on the 22k gold, then modding is probably your path.

Thank you for your response. I didn’t see them mention the 22k gold. Maybe my adhd is messing up my reading lol

Yeah I’m considering modding. I am still learning to navigate this site. Is there a link if you can share with me where I can find a modder?

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

My strongest opinion for you is to go through TWM, Popup or AMF to do this build. All 3 are vendors here. Pricey and you will have to wait a while they arent fast but more control.

This helps! I appreciate your opinion and I thinking the same. Is there a forum about these builders?

 

[Reaps]

This helps! I appreciate your opinion and I thinking the same. Is there a forum about these builders?

Trusted Rep Dealers

The websites & email addresses listed here are the only one to be used. Any other website found online or in a post other than from the dealer itself are not recommended Be careful, copycat websites are one of the most common scam out there and their addresses are very similar.

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The Watch Mansion

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[dogwood]

@Drivewaydreaming welcome to the forum. I would strongly suggest just going for a stock 5712 as your first rep. Think of it as a “try before you buy” kinda thing. If you’re 6/10 on the stock rep you won’t be a 10/10 on the fully modded rep. Make sure you love the watch before you sink any serious money into a build. The nice thing about reps is if you get tired of them, then become a supporter and get verified and then it’s pretty easy to move the watch along in the m2m sales section for a trivial loss (you’ll probably sell for $100 below what you paid at the TD if the watch is still in good condition). So for a couple of hundred bucks you get to try the watch. What’s not to love about that?

But if you do find you love the watch and want to build the best possible rep version, then as @Reaps says, you’ll want to look at the various official modders / vendors here. There are a few of us who post about our side projects here and there, but speaking for myself, I’m a hobbyist who labours with love in his spare time, for a build like that you’d want to go with an official vendor.

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

@Drivewaydreaming welcome to the forum. I would strongly suggest just going for a stock 5712 as your first rep. Think of it as a “try before you buy” kinda thing. If you’re 6/10 on the stock rep you won’t be a 10/10 on the fully modded rep. Make sure you love the watch before you sink any serious money into a build. The nice thing about reps is if you get tired of them, then become a supporter and get verified and then it’s pretty easy to move the watch along in the m2m sales section for a trivial loss (you’ll probably sell for $100 below what you paid at the TD if the watch is still in good condition). So for a couple of hundred bucks you get to try the watch. What’s not to love about that?

But if you do find you love the watch and want to build the best possible rep version, then as @Reaps says, you’ll want to look at the various official modders / vendors here. There are a few of us who post about our side projects here and there, but speaking for myself, I’m a hobbyist who labours with love in his spare time, for a build like that you’d want to go with an official vendor.

Thank you for your opinion as well my Rolex AD has a Patek AD and I have worn the gen and seen it in person and I feel in love. I reached out to a few people already and will post some pics up when I get it done

 

[Paolo1966]

if you saw in person a gen 5712 you will never wear anymore a rep.. included a 4k rep.

 

[RollyAP]

if you saw in person a gen 5712 you will never wear anymore a rep.. included a 4k rep.

Even seeing a gen 5712 is not as easy as it sounds

 

[Paolo1966]

In Italy and Swiss there are all the 5711 and 5712 that you want.

 

[getAName77]

Does the $1688 mod watch from CZ needs to be serviced? It has the mod cannon pins. Will that address the wobly hands problem? What else doesthe service address?

 

[Drivewaydreaming]

if you saw in person a gen 5712 you will never wear anymore a rep.. included a 4k rep.

These secondary going for a little over 100k and they retail around 50k. Although I’m waiting on the list I don’t think they would give it to me. This will be my first rep. I have a good amount of gen watches which were bought before covid and during and I’m at a lost on them right now that the prices had gone down significantly!

I am actually looking forward for my build. I’ll be more than happy to share pictures and mods in doing.

 

[Paolo1966]

These secondary going for a little over 100k and they retail around 50k. Although I’m waiting on the list I don’t think they would give it to me. This will be my first rep. I have a good amount of gen watches which were bought before covid and during and I’m at a lost on them right now that the prices had gone down significantly!

I am actually looking forward for my build. I’ll be more than happy to share pictures and mods in doing.

These secondary going for a little over 100k and they retail around 50k. Although I’m waiting on the list I don’t think they would give it to me. This will be my first rep. I have a good amount of gen watches which were bought before covid and during and I’m at a lost on them right now that the prices had gone down significantly!

I am actually looking forward for my build. I’ll be more than happy to share pictures and mods in doing.

My message was to telling you that after you see a gen.. you will see many and many differences more than people that never seen it in real life.

The 5712 is one of the most complicated watch to replicate.. first of all the movement cannot be replicated also if you spend 4000 usd for a chinese engraved super clone… and in addition the dial.. hands.. case.. bracelet ecc ecc will be always be different.. too different from the gen.

My suggestion is to don’t spend a lot of money on a watch that will be always a fake if compared in real life with a gen.. my suggestion is to buy the PPF v2 and keep it as it is…
An expert will see always that is a fake and someone that never know PP.. will think that will be good also the PPF.

 

[Prizon]

if you saw in person a gen 5712 you will never wear anymore a rep.. included a 4k rep.

My message was to telling you that after you see a gen.. you will see many and many differences more than people that never seen it in real life.

The 5712 is one of the most complicated watch to replicate.. first of all the movement cannot be replicated also if you spend 4000 usd for a chinese engraved super clone… and in addition the dial.. hands.. case.. bracelet ecc ecc will be always be different.. too different from the gen.

My suggestion is to don’t spend a lot of money on a watch that will be always a fake if compared in real life with a gen.. my suggestion is to buy the PPF v2 and keep it as it is…
An expert will see always that is a fake and someone that never know PP.. will think that will be good also the PPF.

Well of course . Gen is gen. A replica will never achieve Gen spec no matter how much money you throw at it.

The entire point of reps are to be get as close as possible though. Modding a 5712 is relatively inexpensive. The ACE movement with free spring balance is a nice upgrade for those that chase the details. For a fraction of the price. Especially for those that cannot justify Gen prices.