Black Bay 58

[Soxxgo2]

To me it looks like some TDs still have a few of the initial batch - with the mis-matched lume. Hence the question.

Also, look at these two from Puretime. Both purchased by members in this thread within a short timeframe of each other. Not only has the lume match improved, the tube height looks shorter too.

Puretime QC 1:

Puretime QC 2:

Well, this is an interesting development!

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[Soxxgo2]

Has anyone compared the bezel action of the rep to the gen? I handled the gen about 4 months ago and I remember the bezel action being really nice.

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[Jeff92]

To me it looks like some TDs still have a few of the initial batch - with the mis-matched lume. Hence the question.

Also, look at these two from Puretime. Both purchased by members in this thread within a short timeframe of each other. Not only has the lume match improved, the tube height looks shorter too.

Puretime QC 1:

Puretime QC 2:

The second one looks gorgeous...

However the marker at 3 is off. This is a common issue with ZF watches...


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[packerjames95]

Hi guys, I just received my QC for the black bag 58, and I was wondering if you thought the lume looks mismatched, and whether the marker at 9 looks crooked?

 

[Jeff92]

Hi guys, I just received my QC for the black bag 58, and I was wondering if you thought the lume looks mismatched, and whether the marker at 9 looks crooked?

Please show the pictures


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[packerjames95]

 

[michi_werner]

Lume looks fine to me, but I will not comment on the markers, because I’m very bad at identifying flaws with them

 

[fabbe79]

Hi guys, I just received my QC for the black bag 58, and I was wondering if you thought the lume looks mismatched, and whether the marker at 9 looks crooked?

May I ask which TD?

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[carbonized]

I hope this helps someone.
I'm a neanderthal by any watchmakers standards, really impatient and gung ho so before anyone rips into me, yes i'm aware i didn't have gloves, no that's sure as hell not a sterile environment and I'm totally ok with that!

I cracked it open to take a look (using a 25mm socket and a swimming cap....) Then I released the crown with a watchmakers screwdriver. There was a section which was unthreaded which i decided to remove with a jewelers file.

https://imgur.com/cp0JL2B

I popped some rodico in there to catch any filings. (not actually how was pictured in the end. the rodico was shoved inside the crown tube.

https://imgur.com/jUB3QWl

I filed this back and successfully made it more flush. It's not perfect but it's better. I also left the two O rings out because i don't intend to get it wet anyway and it seemed to prevent it sitting more flush.

https://imgur.com/D8SWKvb

https://imgur.com/dsHOaQO

Also as a comment on the other posts; does anyone else now thing the lume is too white?

Edit:
Have a few pretty shots too. That lume takes way too much knocking.
https://imgur.com/u662nNs
https://imgur.com/OxMISBc
https://imgur.com/TQGC5rr

 

[jackflash]

Can someone help me on this qc?

http://imgur.com/a/leN2ji1

Was the 12marker off?

Yes it’s off.

 

[bigtiddygothgf]

I hope this helps someone.
I'm a neanderthal by any watchmakers standards, really impatient and gung ho so before anyone rips into me, yes i'm aware i didn't have gloves, no that's sure as hell not a sterile environment and I'm totally ok with that!

I cracked it open to take a look (using a 25mm socket and a swimming cap....) Then I released the crown with a watchmakers screwdriver. There was a section which was unthreaded which i decided to remove with a jewelers file.

https://imgur.com/cp0JL2B

I popped some rodico in there to catch any filings. (not actually how was pictured in the end. the rodico was shoved inside the crown tube.

https://imgur.com/jUB3QWl

I filed this back and successfully made it more flush. It's not perfect but it's better. I also left the two O rings out because i don't intend to get it wet anyway and it seemed to prevent it sitting more flush.

https://imgur.com/D8SWKvb

https://imgur.com/dsHOaQO

Also as a comment on the other posts; does anyone else now thing the lume is too white?

Edit:
Have a few pretty shots too. That lume takes way too much knocking.
https://imgur.com/u662nNs
https://imgur.com/OxMISBc
https://imgur.com/TQGC5rr

good to see someone try this but I feel like this didnt really do much to be quite honest (if those last pictures are post-modification.) Some good photos of gen can be seen here: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight-watch-review/

the crown is much closer to the midscase and the tube is barely visible on the gen. to make a worthwhile difference i feel you'd need to shorten the crown stem and rethread the tube itself.

looks like i'll be waiting for a V2, hopefully it comes out some time before summer.

 

[Reborner00]

Has anyone compared the bezel action of the rep to the gen? I handled the gen about 4 months ago and I remember the bezel action being really nice.

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I had the Rep but i sold it because i wasn't happy with the lume. The bezel is stiff, like really stiff, barelly moving, after a couple of turns it became a little less stiff but still very hard to turn.

 

[Ronald]

Can someone help me on this qc?

http://imgur.com/a/leN2ji1

Was the 12marker off?

It seems that both the lume and crown tube issues were solved.

 

[Ronald]

Or am I wrong?
Is the crown tube still flawed?
Don’t have much experience.
(Was unnable to edit the latest comment)

 

[carbonized]

good to see someone try this but I feel like this didnt really do much to be quite honest (if those last pictures are post-modification.) Some good photos of gen can be seen here: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight-watch-review/

the crown is much closer to the midscase and the tube is barely visible on the gen. to make a worthwhile difference i feel you'd need to shorten the crown stem and rethread the tube itself.

looks like i'll be waiting for a V2, hopefully it comes out some time before summer.

I think you're mistaken, there's less than 1mm clearance between the bezel and the crown as it stands. Considdering mine was the one labeled above QC1 puretime it's a pretty big difference. Brings it down at least to QC2. perhaps it's the angles of the photos. I'll see if i can dig out my caliper and find an actual measurement online too. Either way we're talking about <0.5mm at this point.

 

[jackflash]

I ordered one from Puretime and received disappointing QC shots. I rejected the watch. Main reason being the poor pearl finish. Few other niggles too. The marker at 12 is slightly offset and there’s a tiny hole in the lume on the hour hand too. The tube height is a little high. Anal to some maybe, but there are better ones out there. See the comparison below.

QC shot I received:

Here’s a QC shot of a good one for reference. Not mine unfortunately:

 

[SuperLory]

u gotta be a joy for the TDs

 

[hare9lon]

I ordered one from Puretime and received disappointing QC shots. I rejected the watch. Main reason being the poor pearl finish. The marker at 12 is slightly offset and there’s a tiny hole in the lume on the hour hand too.

QC shot I received:

Here’s a QC shot of a good one for reference. Not mine unfortunately:

Can't see the difference between yours and what you consider a "good" one.

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[jackflash]

Can't see the difference between yours and what you consider a "good" one.

Main reason was the pearl. The rest I could have lived with. Here’s a closer shot - the good one is on the right.