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Compare ARF 116710LN with the VRF 116710LN

stufuse

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Their goal is definitely to improve their business, but I don't think we are the market. I always assumed the movement clones and other improvements were intended to help scammers selling reps as gens. A clone 3135 won't fool an AD or major retailer, but it would fool a pawn shop. That market is probably worth much more than the small community of people who actively want increasingly gen-like reps.

We are definitely not the market. I knew that. We make up a minuscule percentage of daily sales.


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thediesel17

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Franken vrf

I like!!

asking out of curiosity, gen crystal?
 

Rawbe

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My build will be the same, only need a dw and crown now. I might go for the green dw as well lol that looks great
 

Rawbe

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Ap@12 did you have any issue with the hands rubbing dial like Rob did? I can’t afford to sacrifice my dial lol
 

occb2

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Ok. I serviced the Vrf3185. Amazing quality. Only thing was the pallet fork lost a stone. So I used one from an VR3135. I also used a real new barrel and spring. Also used two real reversing wheels. One was busted.

Movement is clean an oiled and running amazing. When I get my new dials and hands I plan on putting the movement in my build.

The ARF SH3186 is running ok but the hour jumping is very light and weak, Going in reverse is a joke. I did order a few real 3186 parts and will be changing them to see if that will help. Will keep everyone updated.
 

Cranberry2

You're Saying I Can Sell?
31/3/19
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Ok. I serviced the Vrf3185. Amazing quality. Only thing was the pallet fork lost a stone. So I used one from an VR3135. I also used a real new barrel and spring. Also used two real reversing wheels. One was busted.

Movement is clean an oiled and running amazing. When I get my new dials and hands I plan on putting the movement in my build.

The ARF SH3186 is running ok but the hour jumping is very light and weak, Going in reverse is a joke. I did order a few real 3186 parts and will be changing them to see if that will help. Will keep everyone updated.

so you say the VRF movement is "better" then the one from ARF?
Maybe I should order both.....how is the batman version from VRF?
 

markiemark

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On the ARF Sub the gen gasket won't fit with the rep retainer, and on the ARF DJ the gen gasket won't fit with the rep bezel. So I think the same will apply to this GMT....
 
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KJ2020

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Ok. I serviced the Vrf3185. Amazing quality. Only thing was the pallet fork lost a stone. So I used one from an VR3135. I also used a real new barrel and spring. Also used two real reversing wheels. One was busted.

Movement is clean an oiled and running amazing. When I get my new dials and hands I plan on putting the movement in my build.

The ARF SH3186 is running ok but the hour jumping is very light and weak, Going in reverse is a joke. I did order a few real 3186 parts and will be changing them to see if that will help. Will keep everyone updated.

Found this part on ebay in case anyone is interested. Nice to know an aftermarket parts exists in case this ends up being the Achilles heel of the movement.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/REPLACEMEN...LX-GMT-Master-3135-movement-part/401772361131

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