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ZF AP 15500

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Even if you did, most people don’t know what the movement is meant to look like and would just take it for what it is.


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True.

I have a pretty hard time convincing typical grown-ups, that have the sort of money/job to afford circa £20k watches, that the movement is fake. They simply won’t believe it! Why would they?

You try and point out a faux gear, wrong bridge position or whatever other bullshit we look for on gen vs rep pics, but in real life, people looks at you and say “what the fuck are you pointing at man, I can’t even see that shit”
 
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True.

I have a pretty hard time convincing typical grown-ups, that have the sort of money/job to afford circa £20k watches, that the movement is fake. They simply won’t believe it! Why would they?

You try and point out a faux gear, wrong bridge position or whatever other bullshit we look for on gen vs rep pics, but in real life, people looks at you and say “what the fuck are you pointing at man, I can’t even see that shit”

+1.

This is real life 99.9% of the time.


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True.

I have a pretty hard time convincing typical grown-ups, that have the sort of money/job to afford circa £20k watches, that the movement is fake. They simply won’t believe it! Why would they?

You try and point out a faux gear, wrong bridge position or whatever other bullshit we look for on gen vs rep pics, but in real life, people looks at you and say “what the fuck are you pointing at man, I can’t even see that shit”

+1.

This is real life 99.9% of the time.


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Can someone please post dates 19, 20, 21, 22 to see if they are aligned on theirs?

those were my QC , not all your specifics dates but that could give you an idea On my QC i found them way to skew to the top for my licking... Waiting for a new one, I hope they did not butchered the white DW on the ZF and that was just a prototype on the previous dismantle pictures... for me they dont seem on par with the black DW or Grey from what i have seen so far...

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those were my QC , not all your specifics dates but that could give you an idea On my QC i found them way to skew to the top for my licking... Waiting for a new one, I hope they did not butchered the white DW on the ZF and that was just a prototype on the previous dismantle pictures... for me they dont seem on par with the black DW or Grey from what i have seen so far...

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Thanks Alot for that man. I appreciate it.

I hope they didnt screw up the white DW, as you say the Black and Blue ones look OK.

Would be good if someone that currently owns the black or blue to post some of their dates? I was going to pounce on the white dial but may have to wait for a few more examples. Maybe Black or Blue is the way to go still.
 

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Thanks Alot for that man. I appreciate it.

I hope they didnt screw up the white DW, as you say the Black and Blue ones look OK.

Would be good if someone that currently owns the black or blue to post some of their dates? I was going to pounce on the white dial but may have to wait for a few more examples. Maybe Black or Blue is the way to go still.

I will post my blue up later today.


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I have a pretty hard time convincing typical grown-ups, that have the sort of money/job to afford circa £20k watches, that the movement is fake. They simply won’t believe it! Why would they?

You try and point out a faux gear, wrong bridge position or whatever other bullshit we look for on gen vs rep pics, but in real life, people looks at you and say “what the fuck are you pointing at man, I can’t even see that shit”

Damn, exactly. Hell, I bet >95% of my friends who have the means to by gean AP and 99% of those who don't won't suspect a thing if you replace your decorated Miyota with Rolex 3135 caliber or random quartz movement, lol : )

People just don't care, it looks the same to them. My close friend once asked me "do you really have a Rolex?" after me wearing it daily for like 3 or 4 years - and she did it only after her husband randomly told her this. Do you think she will be able to spot Noob? I think she won't be able to spot a $50 replica. And keep in mind she is quite affluent person who is just not into watches - as 99% of other people.

It's like with anything else - you need to be pro to appreciate the details. E.g., say wine. I don't drink it often and, as an amateur, I can easily differentiate between shit and decent wine, but I cannot differentiate between just good and exceptionally good. Thus, you technically can easily make a replica of some renown wine which would be able to fool me...only if I knew how this renown wine should taste in the first place!
 
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When setting the time on a ZF15500 miyota should the second hand STOP when you pull the crown out to the time changing setting? Thanks.


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When setting the time on a ZF15500 miyota should the second hand STOP when you pull the crown out to the time changing setting? Thanks.
Yes :qtip2:
 
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Thanks Alot for that man. I appreciate it.

I hope they didnt screw up the white DW, as you say the Black and Blue ones look OK.

Would be good if someone that currently owns the black or blue to post some of their dates? I was going to pounce on the white dial but may have to wait for a few more examples. Maybe Black or Blue is the way to go still.

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those were my QC , not all your specifics dates but that could give you an idea On my QC i found them way to skew to the top for my licking... Waiting for a new one, I hope they did not butchered the white DW on the ZF and that was just a prototype on the previous dismantle pictures... for me they dont seem on par with the black DW or Grey from what i have seen so far...

20200618-132426910-i-OS.jpg

20200618-132435409-i-OS.jpg

20200618-132445040-i-OS.jpg

20200618-132357693-i-OS.jpg

20200618-132408057-i-OS.jpg

Pretty much same for me but mine were too low - definitely a print issue. If it bothers me I’ll flip it
 

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Thankyou so much for taking the time to do that. It looks like its a little too high the dates? Its less obvious due to the darker DW. I wonder if all of them are like that actually.

Does anyone actually have perfect DW alignment? To be honest that is probably my most pet peeve is to have perfectly aligned dates. I cant stand non alignment due to my OCD. LOL
 
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How much difference is there in between the ZF 15500 grey dial color and the genuine 15500 grey dial color? (Of course, I saw your picture comparison, thank you for your contribution).

According to your picture comparison, the difference is pretty obvious as the grey on the ZF replica is too darker than the genuine which has much lighter grey color that looks like it even can be blended with the case . Maybe, in real life, is the difference is not obvious as the picture shows?

As you are the owner of genuine watch and F , Could you please describe more about the grey color difference between the ZF and gen? Thank you so much for your contribution for the forum and members here.

In real life, the greys are different, with the rep being darker and glossier, while the gen has a lighter color and a crisp matte finish.
Both colors look nice, its just that they are different.
 
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