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ZF AP 15202 hand stack

vh997tt

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Hi everyone.

As you all know, the hand stack for the AP 15202 by ZF is terrible. What to do? Is there any other hands on the market to buy as alternative? Or could a really good watch smith do something about it?

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You actually have 3 choices if you want a different set of hands:

1. Gen hands can be modded to fit but it’ll be a waste of the Gen hands.

2. Custom hands. These are made for the K2121 movement and again they can be modded to fit the miyota movement.

3. Modded hands. The hand base is trimmed, beveled and polished.
 
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Thank you Legend!

From my view, the best way forward seems to get watch smith that coud trim down the hour hand a bit. To have it modded
 

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Thank you Legend!

From my view, the best way forward seems to get watch smith that coud trim down the hour hand a bit. To have it modded
The options have been listed and you can decide what works best for you sir. All the best!
 
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Hello,
If the custom hands exist...
Do you know a watch parts seller of these 15202 hands ? If he makes them, the gen holes must be at least thinner in order to broaden them (for the Miyota). If they are thicker, it's not easy to add material... But they should be thinner...
 

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BP makes hands that look closer to gen. Are they better? No clue. Also I haven’t found anyone selling them separatel…..
 

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A bit out of topic but somewhat related, will the hands from a quartz 15202 fit on the Miyota 9015?
It could fit if the holes of the quartz hands are smaller than the Miyota axis. If it's really the case, you could mod them to it the Miyota. It's better than cutting around the stack...
 

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BP makes hands that look closer to gen. Are they better? No clue. Also I haven’t found anyone selling them separatel…..
Has BP a thinner handbase ? The problem is due to the Miyota axis (very big for the hour hand).
 

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DP are apparently stopping production of their custom dials, are they stopping production of their hands too?
 

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The ZF 15202 has been in production for some time now and they still haven't corrected the oversized hand base. I hope APSF produces a 15202/16202 soon.
If they use the Miyota, it's difficult (1.52 mm hole for the hour hand).
 

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DP are apparently stopping production of their custom dials, are they stopping production of their hands too?
There's a such thing as DP 15202 hands? I'm only aware of DP hands for the 15500. Don't think I've seen anything for the 15202 here or on reddit or on Hillbilly's feed.
 

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@Fettekatze All aftermarket hands for 15202, including DP hands, only fit the gen 2121 movement.

It is possible to mod them to fit MY9015 but that requires an enormous skilled effort
 

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Hi Legend ,will this type of K2121movement also fit into 15202 ZF jumbo?

Also, I wonder if gen hand or custom hand(dp hands i guess) will fit in K2121 without modding. (Like enlarging hands hole)

Always Thank you for sharing your great experience to this world

 

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Hi Legend ,will this type of K2121movement also fit into 15202 ZF jumbo?

Also, I wonder if gen hand or custom hand(dp hands i guess) will fit in K2121 without modding. (Like enlarging hands hole)

Always Thank you for sharing your great experience to this world

Yes it can be modded to fit the ZF case. The gen hands will fit the pinion, and the custom hands will often need to be refined slightly to fit perfectly given the machining tolerance.
 

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How much difference is there between the ZF 15202 case and a CNC 15202 case?