XF New AP Royal Oak 15202 Releasing Soon!

[N0tail_]

Ahh yes, that 0.1mm difference must mean that AP have no idea how to measure watches right? Thank god there's a Chinese factory out there that's measured their 15202 for us. Even better because their 15202 gen has been disassembled and reassembled so many times with who knows what kind of wear and tear...

Your logic is severely flawed, have you ever considered that maybe that 0.1mm change could be due to a different manufacturing process by AP? It was discussed in this thread a few pages back that AP had changed the architecture of their 15202. Even a slightly thicker rubber seal would add the extra 0.1mm.

Also regarding the Daytonas, there are so many ways you could measure case size - bezel to bezel, bezel to crown, diagonally, bezel to crown guard etc. There's literally only one way to measure the thickness lol.

 

[Tigerdragon]

And who says that they not change the manufacturing this year to 7.8 mm? Like they changed the whole dial layout (different color + tapiseries)? I dont trust any website i saw so much error and flaws on websites i could not count it anymore. Also the 15400 is 40 mm which is not true.

Why would the chinese guy measure the thickness on the replica right (8.3 mm like here in the thread) but then would "fake" the gen with 7.8 mm? Why would he do that? Its just bullshit.

 

[BIONONE]

To be honest i wouldn‘t brag about a chinese plastic caliper...

... and following this logic the only rational way would be to measure the gen yourself. Dont go nuts about this nonsense man...

 

[RockerArm]

I don’t agree about the thickness flaw.. mine is 8,3 mm and the gen is 8,1 mm...

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Hi Cassapanca is a pleasure to hear from you!
...actually my watch is really a bit thicker... thickness “bezel to caseback bezel” is 8,45 mm. and the thickness “glass to glass” is 8,6 mm. This is why I wrote about flaw, I really have a “thickness flaw”!
At the opposite of what I could read in this thread some days ago, my rotor does not hit the caseback!!

 

[Tigerdragon]

Maybe they are differences in the cases from XF, the same issues had JF with the 15202 and 15400. Interesting to read.

 

[roflwaffles]

How does this wear compared to a Nautilus or a SubC?

 

[T'Challa]

The XF bracelet looks thick in these blown up photos. Can anyone confirm that its correctly thinner than the normal bracelets used for the 15400 and other models etc?

 

[legend]

Gen is 7.8 there was a video gen vs xf and they measured it.

No man. Gen is 8.1mm. Rep is about 8.3-8.4mm (machining tolerance)
Digital calipers can be manipulated to show whatever reading you want.
Trust AP in this regard.


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[Tigerdragon]

Why should they do this? This would make no sense at all.

Imagine you sell a rep watch and the rep is 8.4 and the gen is 8.1

0.3 mm difference.

But he measured 7.8 mm so it would be 0.5 mm

So what would sell better? The 0.3. So why should he manipulate it? I think more AP changed something because the new 15202 dial has also a little different AP logo and tapiseries.

Ofcourse the dude could me measure bullshit but why is the rep then the right measured? Would not make any sense.

I saw so many mistakes on websites it wouldn't surprise me.

AP never announce any changes (see bracelet changes or dial changes). Maybe someone has an old gen and can measure it? Because a few month ago the site has 8.0 standing there before the redesign.

I actually saved it because I needed it for the DC quartz review.

 

[Miltiades]

The RO jumbo hasn't been 7.8mm since they put a sapphire back in them, an after they changed the monoblock design it also ganied some thickness

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[legend]

Why should they do this? This would make no sense at all.

Imagine you sell a rep watch and the rep is 8.4 and the gen is 8.1

0.3 mm difference.

But he measured 7.8 mm so it would be 0.5 mm

So what would sell better? The 0.3. So why should he manipulate it? I think more AP changed something because the new 15202 dial has also a little different AP logo and tapiseries.

Ofcourse the dude could me measure bullshit but why is the rep then the right measured? Would not make any sense.

I saw so many mistakes on websites it wouldn't surprise me.

AP never announce any changes (see bracelet changes or dial changes). Maybe someone has an old gen and can measure it? Because a few month ago the site has 8.0 standing there before the redesign.

I actually saved it because I needed it for the DC quartz review.

Once again, the gen AP 15202 is 8.1mm and theories are irrelevant.
I will let QueTip chime in on this, I believe he is another guy who knows his gen APs.

 

[N77n]

Hey guys, all of my pins won’t come out I used wd40 and they’re still stuck what should I do?


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[M_Hall]

Hey guys, all of my pins won’t come out I used wd40 and they’re still stuck what should I do?


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Are you using a removal tool?

This worked on my Royal Oak.


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[RockerArm]

No man. Gen is 8.1mm. Rep is about 8.3-8.4mm (machining tolerance)
Digital calipers can be manipulated to show whatever reading you want.
Trust AP in this regard.


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HI Legend,
do you think my watch is reasonably within the production tolerances or I'm really having an effective flaw issue?
What do you think about the two measures "bezel to bezel" and the "glass to glass" are they reasonably within tolerances?

By the way, I'm using a classic steel analog caliper who only achieve to measure 1/20 mm.

 

[legend]

HI Legend,
do you think my watch is reasonably within the production tolerances or I'm really having an effective flaw issue?
What do you think about the two measures "bezel to bezel" and the "glass to glass" are they reasonably within tolerances?

By the way, I'm using a classic steel analog caliper who only achieve to measure 1/20 mm.

Hello RockerArm

Thickness is generally measured bezel to caseback surfaces and not glass to glass. I think 8.45mm is very ok, please don’t worry about 0.1-0.2mm, as the parallax error could already have a wider margin.




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[RockerArm]

Hello RockerArm

Thickness is generally measured bezel to caseback surfaces and not glass to glass. I think 8.45mm is very ok, please don’t worry about 0.1-0.2mm, as the parallax error could already have a wider margin.




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Thank you Legend for your kind reply.
I noted that the front and the caseback glasses protrudes a little over the two bezel where they are mounted on, that's why I get the two different measures.

But I'm happy you say that is within the production tolerances!

 

[QueTip]

Once again, the gen AP 15202 is 8.1mm and theories are irrelevant.
I will let QueTip chime in on this, I believe he is another guy who knows his gen APs.

Gen IS 8.1mm.

 

[Suux88]

What is screw driver size for this screws

sounds like resizing is a nightmare on these guys

 

[kubectl]

What is the quality of the crystal on this? I normally order from Prof direct who works his magic but thinking about just getting it as is?

 

[kubectl]

Well I ordered one from Prof anyway. I know the Xtal seems 'too' transparent sometimes I just prefer that look personally.