XF Factory PAM 111 Made 1:1 Comparison With Gen Now Available

[KOT1917]

No, reps are not factory waterproof, IamSteve557 .

Whom do you ask about the choice VSF/NOOB?

 

[IamSteve557]

No, reps are not factory waterproof, IamSteve557 .

Whom do you ask about the choice VSF/NOOB?

Thanks KOT. You would think if they were truly a "1:1" replica, they would be just as waterproof! I guess that would be taking it to the next level.

I was asking generally...anyone with input.

 

[superspark69]

Most of the time reps can be waterproof, just don’t expect that it is guaranteed. Most of my pams have exceeded my water pressure tester at 100m after having gaskets greased


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[KOT1917]

Thanks KOT. You would think if they were truly a "1:1" replica, they would be just as waterproof! I guess that would be taking it to the next level.

I was asking generally...anyone with input.

You are welcome.
I would choose NOOB.

 

[Time_Wizard]

Seems there wont be a noob version anytime soon. So this might be the best option.

 

[mtobberup]

I do not believe XF are available at the moment. But yes it is a great rep

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[KOT1917]

I also think that XF is difficult to buy now, just unlike NOOB, the situation with them can change. There is now a PAM111 announcement from HWF, probably the only one readily available these days, but very unlikely, the best.

 

[erasmus24]

Waiting for Pam 318, but Pam 111 xf is a good one too.

 

[THXuk]

I also think that XF is difficult to buy now, just unlike NOOB, the situation with them can change. There is now a PAM111 announcement from HWF, probably the only one readily available these days, but very unlikely, the best.

This is up on PC, Hont is doing a deal for $198 without the extra strap. I am tempted, but honestly could not tell if this is as good or inferior to the other 2?

https://www.pfc8188.com/0-0-0-0-pn11...ck-a-6497.html

 

[KOT1917]

Not ready to say yet. PC photos are the worst that dealers offer. I think the case will be standard for this factory, but the dial and the movt. Finish should still be carefully analyzed.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/10138909-pam111-hwf

Created a separate thread for this discussion, THXuk

 

[nicmend]

Hi all, I just received my QC pictures from hont. Overall the watch looks good to me despite the well known greenish lume and wrong case shape.
However I would like to have a feedback on the hand pinion. Is it just roughly finished (for which I don't care that much, shouldn't be really visible in real life) or is the minute hand coming off (this would worry me)?






Anyone could help me out?

 

[nicmend]

Actually I realize the issue is not so visible, but when analysing them zooming in on my tablet it looks like the minute hand is not well fitted. Could that be?

 

[KOT1917]

Hello.

Yes, everything is exactly as you wrote. Some of the XFs in this case, especially the PAM005, often come across with the minute arm not completely covered, which means the CP is recessed, and sometimes not evenly.
This is due to some excess paint that they applied to their hands, as a result of which the hole in the hand becomes a little narrower and it is not possible to put the hand on completely.

 

[nicmend]

Hello.

Yes, everything is exactly as you wrote. Some of the XFs in this case, especially the PAM005, often come across with the minute arm not completely covered, which means the CP is recessed, and sometimes not evenly.
This is due to some excess paint that they applied to their hands, as a result of which the hole in the hand becomes a little narrower and it is not possible to put the hand on completely.

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! Should I be worried about the minute hand coming off and ask for another watch or is it just an aesthetic matter? If so I wouldn't bother too much. I just wouldn't like to get the watched serviced soon

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[KOT1917]

Glad I could be useful.

This is an aesthetic issue.
The participants had a lot of XF with a recessed CP, one was able to fix it, but not one gave in to the fact that the hand fell off.
There is always a risk that a slightly higher hand can touch the crystal with a slight bend, but this is a rare set of circumstances. Especially since most XFs come with this recessed CP, I wouldn't bother looking for one without this flaw.

 

[nicmend]

Thank you again, very helpful indeed. I asked hont to check if the other pams he has in stock have the same issue. Otherwise I'll just get this one

 

[crashuid]

I'm thinking in buying an XF PAM 111. What. Mods would you be recommending to be more gen like?
Been trying to read around...

 

[themaxx25]

I'm thinking in buying an XF PAM 111. What. Mods would you be recommending to be more gen like?
Been trying to read around...

Have the TD waterproof and regulate it.

 

[crashuid]

Have the TD waterproof and regulate it.

Thanks. I have read some comments about the Swan neck should be reshaped.

 

[themaxx25]

I thought the swan necks were nonfunctional/fake….maybe that’s just on certain PAMs.