XF 15707 ceramic V2

[thewatcher]

i already accepted mine too and actually that diver ring sort of bugged me..then I went to check gen photos and ironically enough on the FC the yellow ends at the mid section of the triangle and the middle of the 3 o'clock nmarker..whereas on this 15707 it's like shown in the photo before..

Weird decision

My cyclops seems a bit cloudy but I have already ordered Mikey DW for that

May I know which movement you ordered for this Ceramic Diver?
I've asked Mikey but it seems the 2836 DW is out of stock...

 

[SuperLory]

May I know which movement you ordered for this Ceramic Diver?
I've asked Mikey but it seems the 2836 DW is out of stock...

I noticed I made a mistake in my previous post..I ordered Mikey CYCLOPS not DW
DW imho does not need to be changed

 

[reppin]

I noticed I made a mistake in my previous post..I ordered Mikey CYCLOPS not DW
DW imho does not need to be changed

that's exactly what I did. Only bought the cyclops as the DW is very good.

 

[nine]

I want to switch 15707 XF V2 dail (A23j movement) to the lastest one, but the dial pin differnt, Any thoughts to exchage?

Left : 2836 dial. Right: A23J

 

[Xsaf]

Guys, it terms of weight what is the difference between ceramic and forged carbon? I realize its quite subjective but which one is more comfortable?
Thanks

 

[R3w1nd]

I want to switch 15707 XF V2 dail (A23j movement) to the lastest one, but the dial pin differnt, Any thoughts to exchage?

Left : 2836 dial. Right: A23J

I don’t think you can as A23j is based on miyota and the 2836 on ETA. The will have different mechanisms to change the date. Same goes for hands.

 

[R3w1nd]

Guys, it terms of weight what is the difference between ceramic and forged carbon? I realize its quite subjective but which one is more comfortable?
Thanks

You get used to the weight pretty quickly imo. Even the stainless steel version which is quite heavy is very comfortable. In terms of weight I would think the forged carbon will be lighter.

 

[nine]

Xsaf FC more lighter. It is sure.

I don’t think you can as A23j is based on miyota and the 2836 on ETA. The will have different mechanisms to change the date. Same goes for hands.

Yes , now I want to exchange the dial .
the Case can exchange,so case is same, DW+hands no change,
I m thinking about trying to move off the pin and usd glue to fixed.

 

[R3w1nd]

You should be able to attach the dial with double sided tape yes.

 

[Topcatz]

I was told the A23J 21600 bph is seagulls movement. I try to get information on which seagull A23J series but the dealer seems to avoid my question.

 

[SuperLory]

Guys, it terms of weight what is the difference between ceramic and forged carbon? I realize its quite subjective but which one is more comfortable?
Thanks

it's really subjective: i know guys who love "presence" on their wrist. I, on the contrary, love the feeling of forgetting of having a watch on my wrist.

This said, unlike other similar watches somehow even the heavier ceramic and steel versions are quite well balanced and not extremely top heavy

Of course, if you asked me, I'd say Forged carbon all my life.

 

[Tobel]

Hey guys, which movement would you recommend for this one? The 23J is already low beat, so is there a reason for going with the 2836 that requires modding?

I suppose that the 23J won't have the instant date change and that the datewheels would be different. Anything else? Quality of movement ? Decoration "closer" to gen ?

Thanks

 

[jttou]

Why are you guys concerned about the beat rate so much? Who in your environment is going to notice that, who even knows what AP is? And if they know AP and you, beat rate won't be the problem for getting called out.

 

[BIONONE]

Hey guys, which movement would you recommend for this one? The 23J is already low beat, so is there a reason for going with the 2836 that requires modding?

I suppose that the 23J won't have the instant date change and that the datewheels would be different. Anything else? Quality of movement ? Decoration "closer" to gen ?

Thanks

the 23J movement is only available for the "old" V2 which got the wrong DW font and the wrong shitty dial... Hands are also wrong on this model and are not interchangeable with the "V2"... Beat rate is noticeable for cracks and freaks like us but not for the average person out there.

if you are concerned about beat rate - there are other things that tell you it is a rep other than that...

the new V2 is such a great looking watch out of the box without modding IMHO it is good to go...

 

[Tobel]

Thanks BIONONE , I had not realized that

What would be the other tells that you're referring to?

I know that the inner bezel is not exactly as per gen ("depth" of numbers and markers), the movement is obviously another one, maybe the wet look of the dial?

Anything else?

Also, do you know if a 2836 can be changed to low beat like you would on a 2824? Is it possible to keep the decorations of the movement so that it remains decently similar to an a3120?

Thank you

 

[Drifter]

From memory my jf v7 weighed 176 grams. Ceramic noob was 140ish grams. And the FC weighs about 120 ish grams.

Have had both ceramic and SS and you get used to both quickly.

The XF looks amazing here. Very tempting.


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[Drifter]

Found the pics

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[BIONONE]

Thanks BIONONE , I had not realized that

What would be the other tells that you're referring to?

I know that the inner bezel is not exactly as per gen ("depth" of numbers and markers), the movement is obviously another one, maybe the wet look of the dial?

Anything else?

Also, do you know if a 2836 can be changed to low beat like you would on a 2824? Is it possible to keep the decorations of the movement so that it remains decently similar to an a3120?

Thank you

the 15707 doesnt have a wet dial as the tapisserie or so called hobnail pattern is flat and matte.

the face of the watch is spot on, the tapisserie is top notch i think it is perfectly fine. without a side by side comparison nobody would notice that the gen is a little more glossy rather than matte.

what i was saying is - that a watch geek like us would notice the diving scale being a bit different compared to gen rather than mentioning the beat rate being off...

so i would say this watch is good to go unless you try to fool someone by the look of the movement...


for the movement swap - im not familiar with a conversion to low beat with a 2836...

but a problem would be to find matching hands for a 2824... Then you would need an H-Maker diver to use its hands... And then again you need a new date disk... costs over costs with a shit load of time which makes it not worth it IMO to mod it into a low beat diver.

all in all - all flaws other divers have are refined (DW, crystal, dial, hands, color, brushing, gen construction of the plots and lugs, on trusytime video even the cyclops look great)

i think this watch is the way to go for the price without any mods.

 

[efthimis]

Found the pics

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I was so much looking for the weight of the ceramic Diver, thank you bro!!


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[Eulise]

the 23J movement is only available for the "old" V2 which got the wrong DW font and the wrong shitty dial... Hands are also wrong on this model and are not interchangeable with the "V2"... Beat rate is noticeable for cracks and freaks like us but not for the average person out there.

if you are concerned about beat rate - there are other things that tell you it is a rep other than that...

the new V2 is such a great looking watch out of the box without modding IMHO it is good to go...

Are you sure about this one? Ordered the 23J version for both the FC and Ceramic Diver and will be selling them off the moment they arrive if that’s the case...


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