Interesting observation... and here I was thinking that a rep is not from AD source and a Gen from an AD source... but this brings up an interesting perspective!
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So should we conclude that Rolex makes the final call on if it's a fake or not?
So lets say you have a gen and you had the lume redone.... is that now a fake Rolex?
So lets say you have a gen and you had the lume redone.... is that now a fake Rolex?
That is quite stupid of Rolex. I can fit my Mercedes sparkplugs from another company and it would still be a Mercedes.
Rolex Doesnt make the lume, so your ok there.
But if you replace a bracelet screw thats not Rolex, now is a fake. And the goons at the Rolex forums tend to believe this as well. I saw a thread once where a guy bought an aftermarket bracelet for his sub (with no brand markings on the bracelet), he posted pics to show how it looked(as it wasnt a standard sub bracelet) and they lit him on fire over it.
Great points about the watch modding. Never thought of it before.
I'm glad I read this whole thread. I was thinking about picking up a gen omega smp chrono this week. Now I'm reconsidering. I could have almost 10 high quality watches for that price, and ruin a couple learning to service them (I will be starting with a couple non- chrono's first though). Thanks guys!
I'm glad I read this whole thread. I was thinking about picking up a gen omega smp chrono this week. Now I'm reconsidering. I could have almost 10 high quality watches for that price, and ruin a couple learning to service them (I will be starting with a couple non- chrono's first though). Thanks guys!
I can see why Rolex wants us all to buy their watches and use their parts and get their service, but I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that since the case is the only part that has a serial number, that like a car frame or body it is what really defines the watch. Frankens aside, we could all just vote on what percentage of gen parts allows us to call our Rep a "Rolex". 
So who is up for creating the RWI ISO? Maybe the admins can do a poll and we can all vote on a series of first ever sanctioned rep watch terms and definitions. The forum can charge a fee and certifiy the class of rep or gen, and maybe give out a certification printed on really nice cert paper. (Hey I'm all about trying to help RWI with cash flow)
Suggested grades:
Cheesy fake : Reserved for teh cheapest of fakes (doesnt require it tell time)
Fake : Any fake that has so so build and actually tells time
Rep Grade 3 : V1 of any rep
Rep Grade 2 : V2-Ultimate
Rep Grade 1 : WM9 Class
Franken Rep : Any Rep with Gen parts built on a rep case
Franken Gen : A ny Gen case with rep parts
Genuine - : Any Gen with gen movement dial and hands but may have aftermarket bezel and or bracelet, etc.
Genuine : Genuine with all gen parts
What can I say, it's a Monday and I have not had my coffee yet. So while I go make some, mull it over.
But on a serious note, if I had a genuine submariner with a Yuki ETA adapter and an ETA movement, I wouldnt call it a fake...I'd call it a Rolex, with an ETA movement.
So who is up for creating the RWI ISO? Maybe the admins can do a poll and we can all vote on a series of first ever sanctioned rep watch terms and definitions. The forum can charge a fee and certifiy the class of rep or gen, and maybe give out a certification printed on really nice cert paper. (Hey I'm all about trying to help RWI with cash flow)
Suggested grades:
Cheesy fake : Reserved for teh cheapest of fakes (doesnt require it tell time)
Fake : Any fake that has so so build and actually tells time
Rep Grade 3 : V1 of any rep
Rep Grade 2 : V2-Ultimate
Rep Grade 1 : WM9 Class
Franken Rep : Any Rep with Gen parts built on a rep case
Franken Gen : A ny Gen case with rep parts
Genuine - : Any Gen with gen movement dial and hands but may have aftermarket bezel and or bracelet, etc.
Genuine : Genuine with all gen parts
What can I say, it's a Monday and I have not had my coffee yet. So while I go make some, mull it over.
But on a serious note, if I had a genuine submariner with a Yuki ETA adapter and an ETA movement, I wouldnt call it a fake...I'd call it a Rolex, with an ETA movement.
Honestly I think that is a pretty good list, I do not know how you would enforce it though without sending the watch to the Forum owner or a designated forum modder that really knows his or hers watches.
I can see why Rolex wants us all to buy their watches and use their parts and get their service, but I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that since the case is the only part that has a serial number, that like a car frame or body it is what really defines the watch. Frankens aside, we could all just vote on what percentage of gen parts allows us to call our Rep a "Rolex".
So who is up for creating the RWI ISO? Maybe the admins can do a poll and we can all vote on a series of first ever sanctioned rep watch terms and definitions. The forum can charge a fee and certifiy the class of rep or gen, and maybe give out a certification printed on really nice cert paper. (Hey I'm all about trying to help RWI with cash flow)
Suggested grades:
Cheesy fake : Reserved for teh cheapest of fakes (doesnt require it tell time)
Fake : Any fake that has so so build and actually tells time
Rep Grade 3 : V1 of any rep
Rep Grade 2 : V2-Ultimate
Rep Grade 1 : WM9 Class
Franken Rep : Any Rep with Gen parts built on a rep case
Franken Gen : A ny Gen case with rep parts
Genuine - : Any Gen with gen movement dial and hands but may have aftermarket bezel and or bracelet, etc.
Genuine : Genuine with all gen parts
What can I say, it's a Monday and I have not had my coffee yet. So while I go make some, mull it over.
But on a serious note, if I had a genuine submariner with a Yuki ETA adapter and an ETA movement, I wouldnt call it a fake...I'd call it a Rolex, with an ETA movement.
I would love to see the rolex forum guys all have seizures over an ETA sub. lol!
But do we really want the dealers to start using grades? No.
Some V2's are better then V3's. Some frankens are modded better or have more mods then others, how would that work? Franken grade 1.2234ver2.3?
If I can get a hold of a Sub case and gen parts, I promise to build it based on a Gen ETA 2892A2 and post it over there just to "poke the bear".
why i buy replica? my passion its UPO-omega planet ocean 45mm!first-i see and i try how its the watch when you have in your hands!!!!
second--i love style,design!its great!!!!
3-for same price you buy great quality and watch replica!!!!in the past i buy orient,seiko but not same quality!!!not the same style!!!!
and the most important??if you feel good with your self with replica why not!!!!!i know my omega planet ocean swiss eta and saphire glass its not original but i like so so mutch!!!!!!maybe after long long time when i will have money i will buy my original omega!!!!but now its perfect style for me!from watches like orient and seiko!!!!
second--i love style,design!its great!!!!
3-for same price you buy great quality and watch replica!!!!in the past i buy orient,seiko but not same quality!!!not the same style!!!!
and the most important??if you feel good with your self with replica why not!!!!!i know my omega planet ocean swiss eta and saphire glass its not original but i like so so mutch!!!!!!maybe after long long time when i will have money i will buy my original omega!!!!but now its perfect style for me!from watches like orient and seiko!!!!
I can see why Rolex wants us all to buy their watches and use their parts and get their service, but I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that since the case is the only part that has a serial number, that like a car frame or body it is what really defines the watch. Frankens aside, we could all just vote on what percentage of gen parts allows us to call our Rep a "Rolex".
So who is up for creating the RWI ISO? Maybe the admins can do a poll and we can all vote on a series of first ever sanctioned rep watch terms and definitions. The forum can charge a fee and certifiy the class of rep or gen, and maybe give out a certification printed on really nice cert paper. (Hey I'm all about trying to help RWI with cash flow)
Suggested grades:
Cheesy fake : Reserved for teh cheapest of fakes (doesnt require it tell time)
Fake : Any fake that has so so build and actually tells time
Rep Grade 3 : V1 of any rep
Rep Grade 2 : V2-Ultimate
Rep Grade 1 : WM9 Class
Franken Rep : Any Rep with Gen parts built on a rep case
Franken Gen : A ny Gen case with rep parts
Genuine - : Any Gen with gen movement dial and hands but may have aftermarket bezel and or bracelet, etc.
Genuine : Genuine with all gen parts
What can I say, it's a Monday and I have not had my coffee yet. So while I go make some, mull it over.
But on a serious note, if I had a genuine submariner with a Yuki ETA adapter and an ETA movement, I wouldnt call it a fake...I'd call it a Rolex, with an ETA movement.
I think we should go with:
Swiss A
Swiss AA
swiss AAA
Swiss AAA+
Japanese AA
Japanese AAA
Japanese AAA+
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Hmm I have had several gen watches (including Tag) and to me I feel no real difference between the gen and rep, all my watches get the same treatment, and to be honest I found Tag Heuer low quality compared to my Deepsea (im talking about Tag Link and Grand Carrera) sold those watches when I had the chance and basically most of my gens and bought reps instead, much better move I reckon, more $ to spend on more important things such as electronics and cars
damn i missed this thread!
wish i'd have been on sooner. i would have said i perfer my £170 rep over a £8k gen, atleast if someone calls it fake it is rather than have someone be adamant that a £8k gen is fake lmao
wish i'd have been on sooner. i would have said i perfer my £170 rep over a £8k gen, atleast if someone calls it fake it is rather than have someone be adamant that a £8k gen is fake lmao