these guys offer the option, but it would need a technical guy to fit them...
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Why choose expensive automatics over quartz?
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I may be wrong (just ask the wife) but doesn't the Tag Indy 500 have a quartx movement with a sweeping (not tic-tic-tic) seconds hand?
I also thought there were quartz movements with sweeping hands, but if there are I have no idea why anyone would make a quartz without it. Please rep makers, use these as standard from now on..
/end pissing in wind
I think the Indy 500 tics.
The most common sweeping quartz found these days is in the Bulova Accutron Precision line. They advertise it as the most accurate movement in the world. Who knows...
The most common sweeping quartz found these days is in the Bulova Accutron Precision line. They advertise it as the most accurate movement in the world. Who knows...
The mechanical movements are more interesting to me. They are cool little machines.
That is a very vague and personal statement on my part. A quartz powered movement is a machine, too. But it's the equivalent of a modern subway as compared to, I don't know, maybe a steam locomotive. I find the latter to be more appealing, even though both are useful.
Since I rarely wear the same watch on two consecutive days, its accuracy is not important.
I use one of my two quartz watches (a Tissot T-Touch in this case, with no center seconds hand) to indicate the time and date when I set my chosen mechanical watch each morning.
Just my $0.02 USD.
That is a very vague and personal statement on my part. A quartz powered movement is a machine, too. But it's the equivalent of a modern subway as compared to, I don't know, maybe a steam locomotive. I find the latter to be more appealing, even though both are useful.
Since I rarely wear the same watch on two consecutive days, its accuracy is not important.
I use one of my two quartz watches (a Tissot T-Touch in this case, with no center seconds hand) to indicate the time and date when I set my chosen mechanical watch each morning.
Just my $0.02 USD.
I own 2 quartz watches, all the rest are mechanical, and most future watch purchases by me will be mechanical. I absolutely can't stand a one-tick-per-second second hand. I think it looks jerky and incredibly cheap, especially on an expensive watch. Plus, I don't like changing batteries. Plus, I prefer gears and springs to power my watch - it just has a much larger cool factor.
There are exceptions to my preference for low tech though - The Bulova Accutron (1962-1977 anyway) is electronic but not quartz, and has a perfect sweeping hand. I believe only with super high speed film can one see it ticking.
YouTube - 1963 Bulova Accutron Spaceview Wristwatch
The Rolex 5100 was a quartz movement. I forget exactly when they made these.
YouTube - Rolex 5100 sweep second
And, if I had the money for a 69 Camaro, no way could I have a sputtering carburetor under the hood - I'd have to go with EFI and OBDII or a Duramax.
There are exceptions to my preference for low tech though - The Bulova Accutron (1962-1977 anyway) is electronic but not quartz, and has a perfect sweeping hand. I believe only with super high speed film can one see it ticking.
YouTube - 1963 Bulova Accutron Spaceview Wristwatch
The Rolex 5100 was a quartz movement. I forget exactly when they made these.
YouTube - Rolex 5100 sweep second
And, if I had the money for a 69 Camaro, no way could I have a sputtering carburetor under the hood - I'd have to go with EFI and OBDII or a Duramax.
1. For me, if a nuclear bomb went off over my head, I'll be able to tell time much longer than the quartz watch wearers. I won't be as accurate, but at that point, does it really matter?
2. It gives me a reason to wake up every day. If I don't provide the energy to keep it going, who will? Nobody in my house.
This explains the paranoia we all share....
Watch and learn.... watch and learn.
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Jeez ThinkBachs, I'd be looking to invest in some auto-winders for my Reps if I were you.:rotors:
Enjoyed the vids, thanks you.
Good luck, Phil
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I'd agree totally with this. There are some great quartz chrono reps about (not enough of them unfortunately) if you wade through the junk on the lower priced stuff they can be found. I think some who go dearer and get the a7750 version of certain watches like to convince themselves that they've got the superior finish aswell (most of the time its true). Although there are few gems around with same finishes as A7750 with a quartz soul inside and they can be built like a tank for 1/3 of the price. Its a pity the factories don't do it more often on chronos. The factories have a fascination with A7750 and chronos. If its uncomplicated its not too bad a movement but A7750 modified can be 'ticking' timebombs at a heafty cost to the rep buyer.
Also somebody mentioned a seamaster quartz....a decent seamaster quartz would've been a great rep but sadly it never materialised. There are also some lovely new seamaster aqua terra's out recently enough and sadly the factories don't want to know about replicating them properly, they'd be great candidates for a good quartz in them....its all PO this and PO that lately
Also just to add I find it fairly funny when rep owners get purist critical about quartz, they are as annoying as gen snobs at times! I do realise we are all in it to get accurate replications as much as possible but quartz has its place or at least should have, its quite funny when 300 dollar rep owners look down on 120 dollar reps owners cos the small dial is ticking
...its quite funny when 300 dollar rep owners look down on 120 dollar reps owners cos the small dial is ticking
So true, so true.
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Especially when some of the gens that's rep counterparts they are looking down on tick themselves
Here you go, all you nay-sayers:
Quartz accuracy and a perfectly smooth sweeping second hand. All for less than $500 WITH warranty, guaranteed water tight, QC, etc. Many models available.
16 beats per second (thats 57,600 vph) and accurate to +/- 10 seconds per YEAR.
A link to their page:
http://www.bulovaprecisionist.com/en
MrYesterday
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Um,
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBTXgksr4s&feature=fvsr"]YouTube - Grand Seiko : SPRING DRIVE[/ame]
granted, a LITTLE more than the Bulova, lol
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBTXgksr4s&feature=fvsr"]YouTube - Grand Seiko : SPRING DRIVE[/ame]
granted, a LITTLE more than the Bulova, lol
Clever, but it is not a quartz movement.
This is an automatic mechanical movement which uses a very ingenious system of electro-magnets to control the release of the main spring, vs. using the standard escapement.
It is very clever and quite unique, but not quartz, which this thread is about.
Ive got 2 gen quartz SMP 300ms and yea it's great being able to just leave them because I honestly dont wear them anymore these days. The quartz gens are cheaper so there's more "prestige" in buying the mechanical.
It's something like 2.5 for a mechanic SMP vs 1.7 for a quartz SMP, they do look identical minus the "CHRONOMETER" label and no COSC certificate obviously, again the prestige.
There's no reason for the factories to make a rep of the gen quartz, they cant get the mechanical looking right anyway much less start selling a rep of the cheaper model no one would probably want.
As for quartz movt in watches that should be auto, ugh.
The Goldeneye watch was a genuine quartz SMP 300, none of the ones since have been though. Also you have watches like the Planet Ocean where the company just want to show off their movt's, they could do a cheaper quartz SMP PO 600m but what's in it for them?
It comes down to the Swiss companies don't want to sell cheaper quartz watches.
It's something like 2.5 for a mechanic SMP vs 1.7 for a quartz SMP, they do look identical minus the "CHRONOMETER" label and no COSC certificate obviously, again the prestige.
There's no reason for the factories to make a rep of the gen quartz, they cant get the mechanical looking right anyway much less start selling a rep of the cheaper model no one would probably want.
As for quartz movt in watches that should be auto, ugh.
The Goldeneye watch was a genuine quartz SMP 300, none of the ones since have been though. Also you have watches like the Planet Ocean where the company just want to show off their movt's, they could do a cheaper quartz SMP PO 600m but what's in it for them?
It comes down to the Swiss companies don't want to sell cheaper quartz watches.
The quartz gen smp has been probably the greatest 'beater' of the past 15 years...and was an absolutely enormous seller for omega...even for the 'purist' mechanical only buyers, many picked up one! They need at least one ultra reliable quartz to set all their mechanicals to!
and many choose to stay with the brand. Anyway you can bet your ass that a quality rep of the smp would've sold enormously over the past 5 years, never has been one unfortunately.You can't confuse what rep factories do with logic or sales potential...they are only getting around to a decent 42mm PO now after 5 years since the release of the gen PO. Sure there was a few other weak generation 42mm POs from the factories. The 4th gen came and they stopped producing it...even though demand was massive...no logic in what they do!
Sure we all get the fact that Swiss companies want to distance themselves from quartz for the most part. That's not under dispute, but is a big discussion probably bigger than we can get into here. Its fairly obvious that the domain of quality workmanship of complicated mechanicals is where the swiss companies want to position themselves. That's not to say that they all or almost all havent dabbled in quartz on one occasion or other and done well out of it. Don't under estimate the selling potential of quartz....It very nearly brought several massive swiss companies to their knees back in the 80's when they had to really examine their position in the market and where mechanicals where going in the future. Fortunately mechanicals will always be wanted otherwise we were very close to seeing the end of quite a few swiss companies!
"they cant get mechanical looking right anyway"
Most of the time agreed
"As for quartz movt in watches that should be auto, ugh."
Thats purely subjective, its a small ticking hand on Chronographs...not a big deal or massively noticeable...no worse than crap pearl/shoddy finishing/poor detailed dial/shiite lume etc...
A lot of people don't particularly want ten A7750 which basically are ticking timebombs...sometimes they can be ok after a service or you may just get lucky and have no bother out of the box....in general though, play with the chronos enough and it will fail!
"The Goldeneye watch was a genuine quartz SMP 300, none of the ones since have been though. Also you have watches like the Planet Ocean where the company just want to show off their movt's, they could do a cheaper quartz SMP PO 600m but what's in it for them?"
Haven't you seen any of the new black/blue bond quartz selling like hotcakes in the gen market...2254 with sword hands quartz.....absolutely huge demand for these both auto and quartz in the gen market! They are for a slightly different market than the PO. The PO rep doesn't need to be quartz as they can at least put a more reliable ETA/Asian 2824 in these. The chrono PO rep is another watch, not as in demand tbh! The truth is that the gen PO is being lined up as a direct competitor to the Rolex sub in the next few years...you can expect to see a price hike of about 2K on these and some new features such as liquid metal bezel and inhouse calibre 8500 movement becoming the norm....A quartz would not cut it in a direct competition obviously.