Why are "what's the best subs?", "best datejust?" "best AP?" etc. the wrong questions to ask

[Cunape]

Thanks, I'm new and this helped me understand better

 

[paul7204]

I agree
At least recommend which forums to search or where to look for factory comparisons
Site is great just difficult to search out help!

 

[reyes73]

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[RDRoss]

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English forum here Sir.

 

[reyes73]

Foro en inglés aquí Señor.

Sorry. Thanks

 

[littledevilcrx]

New to the Forums, Excited to start another build. Thank you for the info.

 

[Feefo]

New to the Forums, Excited to start another build. Thank you for the info.

Hi and welcome to RWI! Glad you found your way here.

Please take some time to read the sticky threads in the new members area (all subsections), learn the basic forum rules and get some very good advice in the process. A number of questions has already been answered there, this is just an example:

Quick links to some of the more prevalent rules of the forum.

The First Constitution of RWI https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...itution-of-rwi QC Rules https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...tle-on-qc-pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...of-qc-pictures Glamour pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...r-pics-and-rwi Multiple Accounts...

forum.replica-watch.info

As a new subscriber, you've already been directed to this thread, please read carefully and look through the linked additional threads:

You are welcome

If you've just joined and are reading this, welcome to RWI. If you stop here, or read just the next few lines, that's on YOU, but don't ever say you weren't warned. If you are approached by ANYONE, absolutely ANYONE, offering you a watch, or a deal, via Private Message (PM), exercise common...

forum.replica-watch.info

Another good thread to read to understand where RWI comes from and some fundamentals is this:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/the-first-constitution-of-rwi.51989/

Most of the information you need to know to start is there. If you're preparing to buy, read the stickies before ordering. When you're finished, you can continue learning by reading the stickies in all remaining sections. If it's stickied, it's important information.

If you intend to sell, read the sales rules and all stickies in the sales section with particular care and make sure you understand each single rule. Sales rules infraction is taken very seriously here. As a new member you are not eligible to sell. Using the sales section is a privilege, eligibility must be earned, make sure you know and understand how.

For anything else, feel free to reach out to @eBoy or me, we're happy to assist, advise, direct, explain. Don't hesitate.

Don't be afraid to post noob questions in the new members area. In doubt, use the flame free zone. If you feel uncomfortable anywhere in the new members area, please reach out to @eBoy or me. Mutual respect is of utmost importance to us. On the other hand, we're grown-ups and are supposed to be able to deal with a bit of irony, don't take it personally, ever, a bit of irony never harmed anyone. If you laugh at jokes, you'll make friends faster.

This forum is a treasure trove of information and benefits from the engagement of all members who take their time to share their knowledge, help each other out and have some fun. We hope that you'll benefit and enjoy this platform as well as contribute positively to it.

If at any point you feel to contribute also on another level, feel free to pm the boss (trailboss99) to become a supporter and get some little perks with the status (editing rights, for example).

Enjoy the forum.

 

[Mat_w]

I just read the first post from this thread! sorry guys I deserved the ripping into!!

I thought you weee being sarcastic

 

[Pogranec]

Thank you for the information. Good to know.

 

[TRAPNEST]

Thanks for the advice, first comment!

 

[Feefo]

Thanks for the advice, first comment!

Hi and welcome to RWI! Glad you found your way here.

Please take some time to read the sticky threads in the new members area (all subsections), learn the basic forum rules and get some very good advice in the process. A number of questions has already been answered there, this is just an example:

Quick links to some of the more prevalent rules of the forum.

The First Constitution of RWI https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...itution-of-rwi QC Rules https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...tle-on-qc-pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...of-qc-pictures Glamour pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...r-pics-and-rwi Multiple Accounts...

forum.replica-watch.info

As a new subscriber, you've already been directed to this thread, please read carefully and look through the linked additional threads:

You are welcome

If you've just joined and are reading this, welcome to RWI. If you stop here, or read just the next few lines, that's on YOU, but don't ever say you weren't warned. If you are approached by ANYONE, absolutely ANYONE, offering you a watch, or a deal, via Private Message (PM), exercise common...

forum.replica-watch.info

Another good thread to read to understand where RWI comes from and some fundamentals is this:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/the-first-constitution-of-rwi.51989/

Most of the information you need to know to start is there. If you're preparing to buy, read the stickies before ordering. When you're finished, you can continue learning by reading the stickies in all remaining sections. If it's stickied, it's important information.

If you intend to sell, read the sales rules and all stickies in the sales section with particular care and make sure you understand each single rule. Sales rules infraction is taken very seriously here. As a new member you are not eligible to sell. Using the sales section is a privilege, eligibility must be earned, make sure you know and understand how.

For anything else, feel free to reach out to @eBoy or me, we're happy to assist, advise, direct, explain. Don't hesitate.

Don't be afraid to post noob questions in the new members area. In doubt, use the flame free zone. If you feel uncomfortable anywhere in the new members area, please reach out to @eBoy or me. Mutual respect is of utmost importance to us. On the other hand, we're grown-ups and are supposed to be able to deal with a bit of irony, don't take it personally, ever, a bit of irony never harmed anyone. If you laugh at jokes, you'll make friends faster.

This forum is a treasure trove of information and benefits from the engagement of all members who take their time to share their knowledge, help each other out and have some fun. We hope that you'll benefit and enjoy this platform as well as contribute positively to it.

If at any point you feel to contribute also on another level, feel free to pm the boss (trailboss99) to become a supporter and get some little perks with the status (editing rights, for example).

Enjoy the forum.

 

[HeathG]

Why are "what's the best subs?", "best datejust?" "best AP?" etc. the wrong questions to ask

Hi


if you're landing on this post it is likely that you are a new member. If so then welcome to RWI!

If you found this post while looking into the new member section then you are doing the right thing and trying to understand how the forum works which can, let's be honest, be a little complex at first. If someone pointed you out to this post, then it's likely that you created a thread a little too early, without having that understanding of our habits and customs. But don't worry, this post is meant to provide you with the right guidance and context for you to fully enjoy RWI.

First of all you need to understand the dynamic between factories who produce reps, and TDs that sell you these reps. I won't get into too much details as there's other better threads covering this, but in a nutshell there is no point asking about the TD who's got the best watch, as they all source the same watches from the same factories such as ARF, Noob, ZF etc. (F stands for Factory in these acronyms). The question therefore is which is the best rep for you (i.e the one from which factory), not the TD.

Now as a new member looking for a nice Rolex, AP, Patek etc, it can be tempting to just ask to the community "which one is the best out there?". This is however not the right question to ask, and members who do this tend to be frowned upon by more senior members, even if they asked politely and with the best intentions in mind. This can create some frustration for everyone. Let me take a moment to explain why that is.

First of all, there is no such thing as a perfect rep. Every single rep has its flaws and if you compare a submariner from factory A to a submariner from factory B, they will both have strengths and weaknesses. This means that only the buyer can make the decision of which flaws they can live with, and which ones they can't. Therefore nobody else than you can make the decision of which one is the best for you. However, for you to make that decision requires that you spend the time to read, use the search engine and learn about the various models and their respective flaws. This takes time, but believe me, this is the best advice that you will receive. Educate yourself and really understand what you are about to spend 100's of dollars on.

Secondly, the issue with that kind of threads is that every single week we see new members showing up, asking the same question over and over again, and then are never heard of again. So while the initial behavior for members is to help each other, after repeating the same thing to many people, many of them who don't even come back to the forum again, it is natural to become less patient and understanding of such behaviors. Therefore, the expectation is that everyone should do their homework and, as explained above, takes the time to read and leverage the content that is already available before creating a thread on a question that has already been asked and answered a thousand times. It is also quite disrespectful to create a new thread and just disregard the content that is available, which members took the time to write to explain their perspectives to help others.

Finally, this ends up creating a lot of unnecessary threads, which pollute the forum and pulls the quality of the conversations down. You will see that there are watch amateurs and watch makers of outstanding caliber, knowledge and experience here, and you'll get the chance to benefit from their help. But that requires a little bit of respect and, which starts with doing one's homework.

All in all, it seems that it is just common courtesy and education to try to understand and respect every community that you just joined before you start talking. This is personally a principle that I apply both on internet and in real life. This community is very active and everyone tries to help everyone. But there should not be an expectation that someone else takes on their time to spoon feed someone else who doesn't want to take the time themselves.

So welcome again, I hope that this was useful. If you made one of the mistakes mentioned in this post don't worry, just learn from that mistake, move on and leverage the amazing content that is at your disposal. Once you have gone through it, and if you still have questions, everyone will be happy to help you, even if some seemed a little harsh a first for the reasons I explained

Thanks man!

 

[OnyxPlz]

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[metalbracelets]

 

[Mr Bond]

Why are "what's the best subs?", "best datejust?" "best AP?" etc. the wrong questions to ask

Hi


if you're landing on this post it is likely that you are a new member. If so then welcome to RWI!

If you found this post while looking into the new member section then you are doing the right thing and trying to understand how the forum works which can, let's be honest, be a little complex at first. If someone pointed you out to this post, then it's likely that you created a thread a little too early, without having that understanding of our habits and customs. But don't worry, this post is meant to provide you with the right guidance and context for you to fully enjoy RWI.

First of all you need to understand the dynamic between factories who produce reps, and TDs that sell you these reps. I won't get into too much details as there's other better threads covering this, but in a nutshell there is no point asking about the TD who's got the best watch, as they all source the same watches from the same factories such as ARF, Noob, ZF etc. (F stands for Factory in these acronyms). The question therefore is which is the best rep for you (i.e the one from which factory), not the TD.

Now as a new member looking for a nice Rolex, AP, Patek etc, it can be tempting to just ask to the community "which one is the best out there?". This is however not the right question to ask, and members who do this tend to be frowned upon by more senior members, even if they asked politely and with the best intentions in mind. This can create some frustration for everyone. Let me take a moment to explain why that is.

First of all, there is no such thing as a perfect rep. Every single rep has its flaws and if you compare a submariner from factory A to a submariner from factory B, they will both have strengths and weaknesses. This means that only the buyer can make the decision of which flaws they can live with, and which ones they can't. Therefore nobody else than you can make the decision of which one is the best for you. However, for you to make that decision requires that you spend the time to read, use the search engine and learn about the various models and their respective flaws. This takes time, but believe me, this is the best advice that you will receive. Educate yourself and really understand what you are about to spend 100's of dollars on.

Secondly, the issue with that kind of threads is that every single week we see new members showing up, asking the same question over and over again, and then are never heard of again. So while the initial behavior for members is to help each other, after repeating the same thing to many people, many of them who don't even come back to the forum again, it is natural to become less patient and understanding of such behaviors. Therefore, the expectation is that everyone should do their homework and, as explained above, takes the time to read and leverage the content that is already available before creating a thread on a question that has already been asked and answered a thousand times. It is also quite disrespectful to create a new thread and just disregard the content that is available, which members took the time to write to explain their perspectives to help others.

Finally, this ends up creating a lot of unnecessary threads, which pollute the forum and pulls the quality of the conversations down. You will see that there are watch amateurs and watch makers of outstanding caliber, knowledge and experience here, and you'll get the chance to benefit from their help. But that requires a little bit of respect and, which starts with doing one's homework.

All in all, it seems that it is just common courtesy and education to try to understand and respect every community that you just joined before you start talking. This is personally a principle that I apply both on internet and in real life. This community is very active and everyone tries to help everyone. But there should not be an expectation that someone else takes on their time to spoon feed someone else who doesn't want to take the time themselves.

So welcome again, I hope that this was useful. If you made one of the mistakes mentioned in this post don't worry, just learn from that mistake, move on and leverage the amazing content that is at your disposal. Once you have gone through it, and if you still have questions, everyone will be happy to help you, even if some seemed a little harsh a first for the reasons I explained

Hello I'm new here and this thread makes perfect sense. I'm looking forward to learning about the reb game from some seasoned enthusiasts. Thanks

 

[Treps]

Why are "what's the best subs?", "best datejust?" "best AP?" etc. the wrong questions to ask

Hi


if you're landing on this post it is likely that you are a new member. If so then welcome to RWI!

If you found this post while looking into the new member section then you are doing the right thing and trying to understand how the forum works which can, let's be honest, be a little complex at first. If someone pointed you out to this post, then it's likely that you created a thread a little too early, without having that understanding of our habits and customs. But don't worry, this post is meant to provide you with the right guidance and context for you to fully enjoy RWI.

First of all you need to understand the dynamic between factories who produce reps, and TDs that sell you these reps. I won't get into too much details as there's other better threads covering this, but in a nutshell there is no point asking about the TD who's got the best watch, as they all source the same watches from the same factories such as ARF, Noob, ZF etc. (F stands for Factory in these acronyms). The question therefore is which is the best rep for you (i.e the one from which factory), not the TD.

Now as a new member looking for a nice Rolex, AP, Patek etc, it can be tempting to just ask to the community "which one is the best out there?". This is however not the right question to ask, and members who do this tend to be frowned upon by more senior members, even if they asked politely and with the best intentions in mind. This can create some frustration for everyone. Let me take a moment to explain why that is.

First of all, there is no such thing as a perfect rep. Every single rep has its flaws and if you compare a submariner from factory A to a submariner from factory B, they will both have strengths and weaknesses. This means that only the buyer can make the decision of which flaws they can live with, and which ones they can't. Therefore nobody else than you can make the decision of which one is the best for you. However, for you to make that decision requires that you spend the time to read, use the search engine and learn about the various models and their respective flaws. This takes time, but believe me, this is the best advice that you will receive. Educate yourself and really understand what you are about to spend 100's of dollars on.

Secondly, the issue with that kind of threads is that every single week we see new members showing up, asking the same question over and over again, and then are never heard of again. So while the initial behavior for members is to help each other, after repeating the same thing to many people, many of them who don't even come back to the forum again, it is natural to become less patient and understanding of such behaviors. Therefore, the expectation is that everyone should do their homework and, as explained above, takes the time to read and leverage the content that is already available before creating a thread on a question that has already been asked and answered a thousand times. It is also quite disrespectful to create a new thread and just disregard the content that is available, which members took the time to write to explain their perspectives to help others.

Finally, this ends up creating a lot of unnecessary threads, which pollute the forum and pulls the quality of the conversations down. You will see that there are watch amateurs and watch makers of outstanding caliber, knowledge and experience here, and you'll get the chance to benefit from their help. But that requires a little bit of respect and, which starts with doing one's homework.

All in all, it seems that it is just common courtesy and education to try to understand and respect every community that you just joined before you start talking. This is personally a principle that I apply both on internet and in real life. This community is very active and everyone tries to help everyone. But there should not be an expectation that someone else takes on their time to spoon feed someone else who doesn't want to take the time themselves.

So welcome again, I hope that this was useful. If you made one of the mistakes mentioned in this post don't worry, just learn from that mistake, move on and leverage the amazing content that is at your disposal. Once you have gone through it, and if you still have questions, everyone will be happy to help you, even if some seemed a little harsh a first for the reasons I explained

This was almost me haha... However I didnt post anything as I have actually spent the time to read a lot of the content. I am looking for a high quality rolex Sub 126610LN, 3235 clone movement, ceramic, SS, ideally from VSF as i have seen good reviews- currently figuring out how to choose a TD and taking the leap that is sending money to a stranger over the internet and trusting the process .

Thanks for the tips so far, its great to see people actually care about this community and despite it seeming quite daunting initially, i get the impression that people are genuinely welcoming here. However with regards to people joining and never being seen again, I suspect there are a large number of people that are just looking to get a rep watch and not necessarily interested in spending a lot of time learning about the hobby. Maybe its just not accessible for these people based on the lengthy process of buying a watch and also the need to build a reputation on the forum before a TD will trust to sell to you... Just my initial thoughts as a newbie

 

[galangae]

Why are "what's the best subs?", "best datejust?" "best AP?" etc. the wrong questions to ask

Hi


if you're landing on this post it is likely that you are a new member. If so then welcome to RWI!

If you found this post while looking into the new member section then you are doing the right thing and trying to understand how the forum works which can, let's be honest, be a little complex at first. If someone pointed you out to this post, then it's likely that you created a thread a little too early, without having that understanding of our habits and customs. But don't worry, this post is meant to provide you with the right guidance and context for you to fully enjoy RWI.

First of all you need to understand the dynamic between factories who produce reps, and TDs that sell you these reps. I won't get into too much details as there's other better threads covering this, but in a nutshell there is no point asking about the TD who's got the best watch, as they all source the same watches from the same factories such as ARF, Noob, ZF etc. (F stands for Factory in these acronyms). The question therefore is which is the best rep for you (i.e the one from which factory), not the TD.

Now as a new member looking for a nice Rolex, AP, Patek etc, it can be tempting to just ask to the community "which one is the best out there?". This is however not the right question to ask, and members who do this tend to be frowned upon by more senior members, even if they asked politely and with the best intentions in mind. This can create some frustration for everyone. Let me take a moment to explain why that is.

First of all, there is no such thing as a perfect rep. Every single rep has its flaws and if you compare a submariner from factory A to a submariner from factory B, they will both have strengths and weaknesses. This means that only the buyer can make the decision of which flaws they can live with, and which ones they can't. Therefore nobody else than you can make the decision of which one is the best for you. However, for you to make that decision requires that you spend the time to read, use the search engine and learn about the various models and their respective flaws. This takes time, but believe me, this is the best advice that you will receive. Educate yourself and really understand what you are about to spend 100's of dollars on.

Secondly, the issue with that kind of threads is that every single week we see new members showing up, asking the same question over and over again, and then are never heard of again. So while the initial behavior for members is to help each other, after repeating the same thing to many people, many of them who don't even come back to the forum again, it is natural to become less patient and understanding of such behaviors. Therefore, the expectation is that everyone should do their homework and, as explained above, takes the time to read and leverage the content that is already available before creating a thread on a question that has already been asked and answered a thousand times. It is also quite disrespectful to create a new thread and just disregard the content that is available, which members took the time to write to explain their perspectives to help others.

Finally, this ends up creating a lot of unnecessary threads, which pollute the forum and pulls the quality of the conversations down. You will see that there are watch amateurs and watch makers of outstanding caliber, knowledge and experience here, and you'll get the chance to benefit from their help. But that requires a little bit of respect and, which starts with doing one's homework.

All in all, it seems that it is just common courtesy and education to try to understand and respect every community that you just joined before you start talking. This is personally a principle that I apply both on internet and in real life. This community is very active and everyone tries to help everyone. But there should not be an expectation that someone else takes on their time to spoon feed someone else who doesn't want to take the time themselves.

So welcome again, I hope that this was useful. If you made one of the mistakes mentioned in this post don't worry, just learn from that mistake, move on and leverage the amazing content that is at your disposal. Once you have gone through it, and if you still have questions, everyone will be happy to help you, even if some seemed a little harsh a first for the reasons I explained

Awesome read!

 

[Jay49er]

Hi all, I’m new here. Thank you for such a great resource. Some really good advice for all newbies starting out. It is very clear and simple. I look forward to the rep journey and contributing in some way. Cheers

 

[Replicussion]

Respect!