OP here, basically I've learned:
1) Don't get a Submariner Date because the cyclops/date window is the hardest part to fake. I'm cool with that
2) ZZF V2 is the best Submariner no date, but you need to get an ARF bracelet and a Prof crystal
3) Right now I'm talking to JTime and ChazingTime
4) I'm in no hurry and I'm will to wait/pay extra to get something that loos nearly perfect
Feel free to correct me, or make fun of me, I don't mind, but that's what I've learned through the wondrous search bar
Edit: Also, the reason I'm getting a Submariner is because I need the watch to seem believable. I actually could buy a used one for $8k (although then I'd basically be broke haha) but I could NEVER afford a Daytona, especially the black on in my profile picture, which is $25k used. I don't know if passing this watch off as real will be a mistake, or get me in trouble, but I think most people won't even comment on my watch, although they will notice it. Today I was talking to a co-worker with a McLaren 570S and he was wearing a Daytona. I didn't say "nice Daytona" but I definitely noticed it. I think given where I work, people will believe my watch is real. And if it helps someone notice me, or open up to me, great. If not, no worries, I'm only out $500 - $700.