Who has the tungsten Rainbow Daytona’s?

[galevin]

100% agree with this, I'm very familiar with the modders you (@galevin) have referenced above and I know the level of variation in quality from one modder to the next can be significant, especially in a model as intricate as this.

Given the sheer volume of rainbows you have and the money you have spent on them, The logical next step from my perspective would be to go for a full gold build. The cost of a build like that is going to be in the low 5 figures, but selling a few of your existing pieces will easily offset that cost.
Rein000
I just don't see you getting much better than you already have using tungsten cases, tungsten cases also still have question marks over their longevity, I've seen plenty of examples of plating chipping away from tungsten cases over time due to how the gold adheres to the surface, depending on the medium used to bond the gold to the surface.

Save your money and time and just go balls to the wall - that's my opinion anyway

Krusing,
Again art is seen differently by all of us. Is it really worth another $20k to buy a Rainbow Daytona with a real 18k band that weighs 225 grams vs paying $2-3k for the identical watch that weighs the same and looks exactly the same? Not worth it to me. I’d rather have the $2-3k versions for way less money but just have more of them. But that is JMHO.

And Mr. Paul Newman…..yeah I’ve been reading about your critiques and maybe you are that 1 guy in 100,000 that can spot a good fake from a great fake but I’ve got no problem with that. We will never meet. I’m a retired surgeon and all my friends are professional wealthy individuals and I’ve never been called out on any of my reps. And I usually tell my friends that the $500k Rainbow on my wrist is actually a real Rolex (116508) that was converted to a Rainbow by using a different dial and custom bezel which is usually done for $50k +/-. And I’m cool with that. So the $2-3000 225 gram Rainbows are my sweet spot. To each their own.

 

[Paul Newman]

Krusing,
Again art is seen differently by all of us. Is it really worth another $20k to buy a Rainbow Daytona with a real 18k band that weighs 225 grams vs paying $2-3k for the identical watch that weighs the same and looks exactly the same? Not worth it to me. I’d rather have the $2-3k versions for way less money but just have more of them. But that is JMHO.

And Mr. Paul Newman…..yeah I’ve been reading about your critiques and maybe you are that 1 guy in 100,000 that can spot a good fake from a great fake but I’ve got no problem with that. We will never meet. I’m a retired surgeon and all my friends are professional wealthy individuals and I’ve never been called out on any of my reps. And I usually tell my friends that the $500k Rainbow on my wrist is actually a real Rolex (116508) that was converted to a Rainbow by using a different dial and custom bezel which is usually done for $50k +/-. And I’m cool with that. So the $2-3000 225 gram Rainbows are my sweet spot. To each their own.

And that is perfectly fine Sir, you can wear whatever you like and the process of building a watch like this it's actually more fun then going to Rolex and getting any watch to be honest.

It is not a critique, only comments on details found because I did a lot of research about this some time ago and tried to find the closest appearance, but I know that not everybody looks for it nor it is possible to get actually.

As I said in my previous message, hope you enjoy them all!

 

[KruisingKhaos95]

Krusing,
Again art is seen differently by all of us. Is it really worth another $20k to buy a Rainbow Daytona with a real 18k band that weighs 225 grams vs paying $2-3k for the identical watch that weighs the same and looks exactly the same? Not worth it to me. I’d rather have the $2-3k versions for way less money but just have more of them. But that is JMHO.

And Mr. Paul Newman…..yeah I’ve been reading about your critiques and maybe you are that 1 guy in 100,000 that can spot a good fake from a great fake but I’ve got no problem with that. We will never meet. I’m a retired surgeon and all my friends are professional wealthy individuals and I’ve never been called out on any of my reps. And I usually tell my friends that the $500k Rainbow on my wrist is actually a real Rolex (116508) that was converted to a Rainbow by using a different dial and custom bezel which is usually done for $50k +/-. And I’m cool with that. So the $2-3000 225 gram Rainbows are my sweet spot. To each their own.

That's fair enough mate, I completely understand your reasoning. As @Paul Newman rightly mentions, what you buy and enjoy is solely down to you, we all have different tastes and opinions and that's what makes this community so great!

I guarantee that 99% of the forum would snort in derision at our tastes (based on your inclination towards rainbow Daytona, I'm taking an educated guess that we like the same stuff )

I started off hating gem-set watches but now I can't get enough of them!

 

[asusundevils1971]

Again art is seen differently by all of us.

Exactly.. Someone just paid 5.8 million euros for a banana duct taped to a wall..

 

[Hesekiel]

@galevin . . . you are making a great point.

We all agree on the fact that they biggest tell of a replica is the wearer. It's the person himself, how he handles himself in public, his whole appearance and the circle of friends he has. Your point also highlights how important a good story is. It's much more believable that you had a regular Rolex customized, than that you spent half a million on one.

I rarely talk about my watches when I'm out and about, and I'm a pretty-much retired guy in a wealthy neighborhood, but in the rare cases somebody asks about my valuable vintage watch, I tell 'em that I inherited it from my late father and as such it is of great sentimental value to me. That usually ends the inquiry.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Exactly.. Someone just paid 5.8 million euros for a banana duct taped to a wall..

Ok, lets call him "someone"....

 

[derjenigewelcher]

We all agree on the fact that they biggest tell of a replica is the wearer.

I read that since I am in to Replica watches and for me, thats crap.
When I come outside a rusty old fiat with my cheap replica gucci trainingtrousers and my adidas "Adiletten" and a 6 Euro T Shirt, you never would think that the Watch I wear is genuine.
Its all about priorities:
For some people apparel must match to the "all in one" statement they wanna make for their surroundings.
I dont give a damn about lazy clothing and car and if I am able to save money there, I got more for the watch

Other people, other priorities. In my opinion the biggest tell is not the owner, but the makro QC s

 

[MaximillianGT]

In my opinion the Rolex Rainbow is the best looking watch you can get!

 

[MaximillianGT]

Exactly.. Someone just paid 5.8 million euros for a banana duct taped to a wall..

I'll get a duct-taped banana before I lay my finger onto any rainbow daytona - at least I have a banana to eat.

 

[BlossomboofyBoofystewie2]

Wow! All these comments and still no one has suggested who could swap my RG s/s case out for a RG tungsten one?

 

[MaximillianGT]

Wow! All these comments and still no one has suggested who could swap my RG s/s case out for a RG tungsten one?

I saw Popup has some sort of tungsten wrapped by ss on telegram, have you talked to them?

Something like this: https://t.me/Redcappopup/661

 

[galevin]

If you know to love this watch

Why not sell all of them and go for an 18k solid gold build with the best sapphires available from a modder? Instead of spending more and more on imperfect ones? I think they go for around 18-20k depending on gold price.

The thing I would aim for with the rainbow is the bezel..... then dial.... then the rest of the build is pretty standard but those two are the most important in a rainbow build.

In all of your rainbow daytonas, I only need to look at the bezel transition color to know the quality. Only one of them is okay, the rest is an instant rep call out.

And Mr Reaps, who can look at a shitty low quality image and tell me how 1 of the 6 bezels can pass his standards is quite laughable in my opinion. Studying the bezels, directly in front of my face, there can’t be 1% difference in all these bezels but you can magically and telepathically from a bad photo tell that one is passable and the others are crap. Laughable. Dream on buddy. And same to the ten others that supported your bullshit comment. And critique all you want, how many other characters are out there that has photogenic telepathic imaginative eyes that I will physically encounter in my life while wearing one of these? Aint gonna happen especially since I only wear one of the 6 with no intention of wearing any of the others. Nuff said.

 

[Prizon]

Krusing,
Again art is seen differently by all of us. Is it really worth another $20k to buy a Rainbow Daytona with a real 18k band that weighs 225 grams vs paying $2-3k for the identical watch that weighs the same and looks exactly the same? Not worth it to me. I’d rather have the $2-3k versions for way less money but just have more of them. But that is JMHO.

And Mr. Paul Newman…..yeah I’ve been reading about your critiques and maybe you are that 1 guy in 100,000 that can spot a good fake from a great fake but I’ve got no problem with that. We will never meet. I’m a retired surgeon and all my friends are professional wealthy individuals and I’ve never been called out on any of my reps. And I usually tell my friends that the $500k Rainbow on my wrist is actually a real Rolex (116508) that was converted to a Rainbow by using a different dial and custom bezel which is usually done for $50k +/-. And I’m cool with that. So the $2-3000 225 gram Rainbows are my sweet spot. To each their own.

Sorry buddy. If you think a 2-3k build is anywhere close to a proper 18k build, you are greatly mistaken. With that logic why not buy a 100$ junker of the same watch and just rock that? I am glad you enjoy your 6 copies of the same exact watch, but gold is gold. Cheap builds are cheap, expensive builds are expensive for a reason and GEN is GEN. Your plated steel /tungsten will never look, nor feel like a solid gold 18k version. To each their own though. Learn to take constructive criticism though, otherwise why post?

 

[Reaps]

And Mr Reaps, who can look at a shitty low quality image and tell me how 1 of the 6 bezels can pass his standards is quite laughable in my opinion. Studying the bezels, directly in front of my face, there can’t be 1% difference in all these bezels but you can magically and telepathically from a bad photo tell that one is passable and the others are crap. Laughable. Dream on buddy. And same to the ten others that supported your bullshit comment. And critique all you want, how many other characters are out there that has photogenic telepathic imaginative eyes that I will physically encounter in my life while wearing one of these? Aint gonna happen especially since I only wear one of the 6 with no intention of wearing any of the others. Nuff said.

Look at the bezels when they transition between the colors. This is where it's most obvious. When the change is too intense and not gradual, the most obvious one is always between green and blue in my eyes. Once you've seen this it's the tell I always look for in the rainbow bezels.

But hey, I know nothing. Always happy to learn if you have more insights about the rainbow bezel. I haven't seen gen in real life so if you have you can bless me with your knowledge if you have. Comparing fakes to fakes doesn't really mean anything.

I don't know why you're getting so defensive. They're replica watches.... I don't know but I'm not delusional enough to believe a 2k fake when it comes to gem color and gem setting can come close to the real thing.

They're nice watches none the less and you're right when you say noone will call you out if you have the salary and lifestyle to support $500k watches.

Enjoy your watches Mr. Multi Millionaire Surgeon.

 

[Feefo]

I thought we settled this thing with de gustibus non disputandum est. No need for escalating. At all.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

I saw Popup has some sort of tungsten wrapped by ss on telegram, have you talked to them?

Something like this: https://t.me/Redcappopup/661

Yes, XING developed a tungsten case with SS around wrapped for excellent plating possibilities. Also the bracelet. Can be ordered on his homepage, about 2k if I remember correctly.

Look at the bezels when they transition between the colors. This is where it's most obvious. When the change is too intense and not gradual, the most obvious one is always between green and blue in my eyes. Once you've seen this it's the tell I always look for in the rainbow bezels.

But hey, I know nothing. Always happy to learn if you have more insights about the rainbow bezel. I haven't seen gen in real life so if you have you can bless me with your knowledge if you have. Comparing fakes to fakes doesn't really mean anything.

I don't know why you're getting so defensive. They're replica watches.... I don't know but I'm not delusional enough to believe a 2k fake when it comes to gem color and gem setting can come close to the real thing.

Thank gos i am colorblind and would not see difference in color hue changeing from rep to gen
I remember havin gen hulk in my hand next to a lime-green vsf v1 hulk s19 serial and thinking that the dial was looking the same

 

[galevin]

Sorry buddy. If you think a 2-3k build is anywhere close to a proper 18k build, you are greatly mistaken. With that logic why not buy a 100$ junker of the same watch and just rock that? I am glad you enjoy your 6 copies of the same exact watch, but gold is gold. Cheap builds are cheap, expensive builds are expensive for a reason and GEN is GEN. Your plated steel /tungsten will never look, nor feel like a solid gold 18k version. To each their own though. Learn to take constructive criticism though, otherwise why post?

Sorry Bud, but yes I do believe a high quality 225 g Rainbow Rep is 95%-98% close enough for me to wear especially since I won’t be encountering the self experts (Paul Newman, Reaps, Prizon and cronies) who themselves have probably never seen a real Rainbow Daytona up close. Not going to blow an addt $20k to rock a real 18k band that friggin weighs the same as my rose gold 225 g rep. Hey to each their own. Just makes my skin crawl when I hear these self anointed experts diss my high quality watches that I may have $15k invested. I’ve been around here longer that the majority of you experts and know that this site, which I enjoy, is important to me and not going to spend any more time fighting with all the professional watchmakers here. Done.

 

[Ac1013]

Sorry Bud, but yes I do believe a high quality 225 g Rainbow Rep is 95%-98% close enough for me to wear especially since I won’t be encountering the self experts (Paul Newman, Reaps, Prizon and cronies) who themselves have probably never seen a real Rainbow Daytona up close. Not going to blow an addt $20k to rock a real 18k band that friggin weighs the same as my rose gold 225 g rep. Hey to each their own. Just makes my skin crawl when I hear these self anointed experts diss my high quality watches that I may have $15k invested. I’ve been around here longer that the majority of you experts and know that this site, which I enjoy, is important to me and not going to spend any more time fighting with all the professional watchmakers here. Done.

As a friend and moder for @Paul Newman , I am pretty sure he owns more gen then reps. LOL so if you think he never seen a gen is very funny..

Anyways as a high end moder, i have always been asked why the price are higher then this and that. Because there are differences in parts always. Even your tungsten cases have different levels. even tho details are very little its still different. Or else why would a gen cost so much more when a china factory get the same level of work.
The best thing is if you accept the quality for what you paid for then its all good.

 

[Paul Newman]

Sorry Bud, but yes I do believe a high quality 225 g Rainbow Rep is 95%-98% close enough for me to wear especially since I won’t be encountering the self experts (Paul Newman, Reaps, Prizon and cronies) who themselves have probably never seen a real Rainbow Daytona up close. Not going to blow an addt $20k to rock a real 18k band that friggin weighs the same as my rose gold 225 g rep. Hey to each their own. Just makes my skin crawl when I hear these self anointed experts diss my high quality watches that I may have $15k invested. I’ve been around here longer that the majority of you experts and know that this site, which I enjoy, is important to me and not going to spend any more time fighting with all the professional watchmakers here. Done.

You can believe whatever you want and express your opinion from a respect point of view, but you don’t know the background of anyone in this forum to make those statements.

And now I can tell you that of course there is different between a 3k and a solid gold 15k and what I believe it was a 130k retail gen, not only in material Quality but in feeling and usability.

When one day you see that your tungsten plating chips (I hope it does not) spontanously as I have seen many times you will remember this post.

I’m not going to talk about Rose Gold color because there can be differences between gens, but Everose is hard to match in tungsten too.

I believe no one will call you out because as you say you have an age and I think when we get to a point, people are not looking to call out anyone, but it does not mean people can’t realice The Watch is not gen, or a modded gen as you said.

 

[galevin]

Had an interesting event last night. GF and I had a little party of 40-50 guests here in Ft. Lauderdale and I brought out the new Hillbilly and Trillonario’s Rainbow. I had the group study both watches and then I would put them behind me and pull them out and ask which one I had in my hand. It was exactly as expected. A Hillbilly rainbow is near perfection. Trillonario’s watch is argueably the finest rep on the planet and there is literally 1-2% difference between the two when compared side by side but cannot be distinguished when one is pulled out and had the group try to identify. The general consensus was that since the watches had identical colors of bands, the dials looked identical, the hands which were different looked identical and the only difference noted by the group was there was a 1-2% difference in the bezel which they attributed to the watches being handmade by Rolex and not all sapphires, even those used by Rolex, are identical. Literally the watches could not be identified when pulled out one by one. Overall the 2 Hillbilly watches and the three 225 gram Rainbow watches are among the finest money can buy. That, to me, is fucking ART. And at this moment, I’m a buyer of another 5 or 10 more of these if they are out there.

But after reading the above threads, I’m 100% convinced my critics above (Paul Newman, Reaps, AC, Prison, etc ) would identify these watches with ease. It’s just that you guys are 1 in 100,000 with the eye and knowledge of detail especially of the rep market. Hell, bet you guys are better than 95% of most jewelers who may have one real rainbow for sale but it’s just an inventory piece to them. Thank God I never have been called out on a watch and I have over 1000 of them.