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What NOT to do to Andiot as a New Member/First Time Buyer

DarioM6611

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Did he asked for bank transfer to a Bank account based in Belgium? Because in this case there's nothing to worry about. If you are based in EU, it's easier to do so. I have choosen that option with Elliot, and all went fine.
 

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Did he asked for bank transfer to a Bank account based in Belgium? Because in this case there's nothing to worry about. If you are based in EU, it's easier to do so. I have choosen that option with Elliot, and all went fine.

Doesn't matter.

He doesn't understand (or pretends to not know) the difference between being unhappy with the service and "nearly being scammed".

Seems like he signed up just to instigate?
 

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No, we do not operate this way.

We cannot silence those who do not know better. We must assist them, this is what we're here for.

We were all once new and went through things like this.

If you are not going to write something to assist this member, please keep it to yourselves.
 

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Doesn't matter.

He doesn't understand (or pretends to not know) the difference between being unhappy with the service and "nearly being scammed".

Seems like he signed up just to instigate?
No I didn’t not at all and I don’t understand why I am being treated like this for expressing my genuine concern
 

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No, we do not operate this way.

We cannot silence those who do not know better. We must assist them, this is what we're here for.

We were all once new and went through things like this.

If you are not going to write something to assist this member, please keep it to yourselves.

Fair enough.

For me to assist though, he needs to acknowledge that he wasn't "nearly scammed".

This accusation of Andiot is ridiculous based on the information the OP provided.

I'm out.
 

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Who am I going to trust, no offense, a member who joined today, less than 10 posts to the forum, and called a TD a scammer, or the dude who has a few hundred reviews (not all are positive).....

I will wait for both sides of the argument, we often see how these kind of cases go

OP, good luck with your replica purchases. I advise you to do some reading on new member FAQs and payment methods.
I have the complete WhatsApp communication history .
I genuinely wanted to purchase 5 watches of him thst we agreed and had been communicating for days
 

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Fair enough.

For me to assist though, he needs to acknowledge that he wasn't "nearly scammed".

This accusation of Andiot is ridiculous based on the information the OP provided.

I'm out.
If that was not his intentions and it was a miscommunication and misunderstanding
 

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I have the complete WhatsApp communication history .
I genuinely wanted to purchase 5 watches of him thst we agreed and had been communicating for days
I think I know why he got mad

He probably is tired, he answered your questions for multiple days with a big order, for you at the end to back out and say "sorry i don't want to pay anymore", many times TDs deal with this, people just use them as google and then quit the order or switch dealers

My other advice to you is probably not to buy 5 replica watches as your first order. Buy only one. Pick the one you want the most. Those Rolex models aren't going anywhere. You COULD buy 5 models as a noob but that's like joining a marathon when you haven't even run your first 5K race yet.
 

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Based on the fact that he insisted payment via other options then what he first recommended and then became aggressive and accused me of trying to scam him
Because, Paypal is not good for large $2000 fucking replica orders. Most dealers won't take that kind of Paypal order from a new member who hasn't have any purchase history or post history on the forum. Sorry but if you know anything about Paypal that kind of order is ripe for a chargeback and scam and the dealer eats the loss.
 

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No I didn’t not at all and I don’t understand why I am being treated like this for expressing my genuine concern
Let's start from the beginning.

  1. You just joined two days ago, so I am certain you have not read up ENOUGH on the buying process from a TD
  2. You come in, guns a-blazin', yelling scam for no reason other than a Trusted Dealer telling you how they would accept payment.
  3. Get twisted when you are asked what actually happened.
Let's get through a few things.
  1. The primary reason why @Elliot Black probably changed his mind with payment was because you are not a well established member. New members or first-time buyers are a high risk for these dealers. These buyers are very prone to SCAM the dealer if they use PayPal or some paying service that gives the buyer protection. We all stand behind the dealer's choice.
  2. Things not going YOUR way does not indicate scam.
  3. You cannot dictate a dealer to do things YOUR way. Like in real life, they can deny you service. Andiot can do that and we would all stand behind that.
There is a huge difference between misunderstanding/miscommunication. You HAVE to understand that. This does NOT equate to a scam.

I would like for @Elliot Black to say his side of the story.

The back and forth of pointing fingers ends now.
 

charliesydney

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I think I know why he got mad

He probably is tired, he answered your questions for multiple days with a big order, for you at the end to back out and say "sorry i don't want to pay anymore", many times TDs deal with this, people just use them as google and then quit the order or switch dealers

My other advice to you is probably not to buy 5 replica watches as your first order. Buy only one. Pick the one you want the most. Those Rolex models aren't going anywhere. You COULD buy 5 models as a noob but that's like joining a marathon when you haven't even run your first 5K race yet.
I never once said I don’t want to pay anymore , I wanted to pay and I wanted to buy this watches. Agree I should have only tried to buy 1
 
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I basically agree with mclarendude. You haven't done any reading. You came in guns blazing with some heavy accusations when in reality everything I've heard so far is pretty much reasonable and inline with most dealers procedures. Maybe he did get aggressive, maybe he didn't, whatever.

You need to do a few hours of reading at the bare minimum. If you can drop $2k on a bunch of fake watches you can save yourself the headache and read for a few hours. Your time is certainly worth that much.

Reminder you're buying illegal watches from a dude halfway across the world for pennys on the dollar.

You don't have to order from Anidiot again but I pretty much will say every single dealer has a similar operating procedure.

Good luck and I'm unwatching and peacing out of this thread.
 

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Remeber you're talking to a Chinese dude who often is using a translator to talk to you. Things can get lost in translation. A simple "I don't trust you, I don't want to pay using Paypal" can translate to something a little more offensive to the Chinese.

It's always best to keep it simple, and be polite and patient.

I have never, ever, through the years of talking to many dealers, ever had a bad word or insult thrown at me.
That’s a good pou
Remeber you're talking to a Chinese dude who often is using a translator to talk to you. Things can get lost in translation. A simple "I don't trust you, I don't want to pay using Paypal" can translate to something a little more offensive to the Chinese.

It's always best to keep it simple, and be polite and patient.

I have never, ever, through the years of talking to many dealers, ever had a bad word or insult thrown at me.
that’s a fair and rationale explanation. Thank you
 

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2 pages of beating around the bush without one single specific info. What kind of PP payment did you want to make and what kind of payment did Andiot suggest after he learned it was for a 2k order?
 

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Anyway I feel like I am being accused and abused for simply sharing my experience .
Yes I am inexperienced and uneducated in this area . However I took confidence in the knowledge , trust and expertise of this forum .
If I have misunderstood than I apologise .
Thank you