What is life like where you live (COVID -19 around the World)

[tripdog]

^^ This.

Lockdown is to prevent a repeat of what is happening in Italy, where the death rate is so high lines of army trucks can be seen transporting the cadavers at night from the hospital to the crematorium.

 

[whalejonah]

thorne I gotta say, your explanation of why social distancing is required is one of the clearest and compelling explanations I have read in the past few days.

It can only work with collective effort - it sucks to stay at home but it sure beats becoming a link in a chain of infection.

 

[ssouthall6]

In the UK we've seen some signs of social disorder but nothing compared to what is to come. I work in Security and study part time. I hand in my final assignment in 6 days and I'm struggling to find the time and energy to finish it. No allowances from my tutor, if it's not in by the 30th I fail the course even despite 500k words across 11 assignments, 8 distinctions and 2 pass grades, one yet to be awarded. My phone hasn't stopped. Balancing work, study, my kids who aren't with me till Friday, my parents who are in their 70's and some distance away relying on my sister who has been quarantined and her ill teacher husband has not been easy. I just took delivery of a Tesla Model 3 and I can't charge it anywhere! Plan had been to leave it at the local train station every day, got my subscription with polar plus sorted, now I can't use public transport, am in isolation anyway, and the car barely has any battery left in case of emergency.

Don't think I'm mentally or physically strong enough if I do get sick, I'm reliant on benzos for sleeping while I study which I'm gonna have to deal with from the 30th. Tried to come off already and it wasn't pretty.

Had already made the decision to break up with my GF who I live with a few months ago but we have a rental contract til August, she's a lovely girl who's in terrible pain with her teeth - two root canals yesterday and it looks like she is going to lose her job. Seems inhumane to go ahead with this any time soon as she needs my support regardless of my feelings - she's done nothing wrong just isn't 'the one'....seems strange saying this on a watch forum wearing a gold daytona but her materialism just wears me down.

Just to add to the drama, I confessed my feelings to the girl I realised I was in love with in January and she admitted the same. I've known her for about 15 years, and everyone has always suspected it, but we took a while to admit it to ourselves. Trouble is she's in Sydney and I'm the UK...we'd booked a trip to Belgium at the end of my rental contract but living day by day and compassion to those closest seems the to be the best option right now.

What a mess!


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[josh676]

Jesus Christ ^ Corona is the least of your worries.

 

[Tompa]

Europe is too slow to act, we needed a dictator for these times and we needed one 3 weeks ago. Only thing that would have worked would be a permanent shutdown of the entire EU, close everything down besides supermarkets/pharmacies. If people go out for anything else than groceries issue them a 1,000 euro fine. MP & Police to enforce this and keep streets clear. This virus would have been dead in 3 weeks. Instead this leftist hippie attitude is going to drag this out effectively for years to come, cost hundreds of thousands of lives, bankrupt businesses, people and put western society in an economic collapse.. But hey, what do I know, politicians know what they're doing, right.. I mean we all saw that how they handled the refugee crisis...

Word on that brother!


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[jpchub]

In the UK we've seen some signs of social disorder but nothing compared to what is to come. I work in Security and study part time. I hand in my final assignment in 6 days and I'm struggling to find the time and energy to finish it. No allowances from my tutor, if it's not in by the 30th I fail the course even despite 500k words across 11 assignments, 8 distinctions and 2 pass grades, one yet to be awarded. My phone hasn't stopped. Balancing work, study, my kids who aren't with me till Friday, my parents who are in their 70's and some distance away relying on my sister who has been quarantined and her ill teacher husband has not been easy. I just took delivery of a Tesla Model 3 and I can't charge it anywhere! Plan had been to leave it at the local train station every day, got my subscription with polar plus sorted, now I can't use public transport, am in isolation anyway, and the car barely has any battery left in case of emergency.

Don't think I'm mentally or physically strong enough if I do get sick, I'm reliant on benzos for sleeping while I study which I'm gonna have to deal with from the 30th. Tried to come off already and it wasn't pretty.

Had already made the decision to break up with my GF who I live with a few months ago but we have a rental contract til August, she's a lovely girl who's in terrible pain with her teeth - two root canals yesterday and it looks like she is going to lose her job. Seems inhumane to go ahead with this any time soon as she needs my support regardless of my feelings - she's done nothing wrong just isn't 'the one'....seems strange saying this on a watch forum wearing a gold daytona but her materialism just wears me down.

Just to add to the drama, I confessed my feelings to the girl I realised I was in love with in January and she admitted the same. I've known her for about 15 years, and everyone has always suspected it, but we took a while to admit it to ourselves. Trouble is she's in Sydney and I'm the UK...we'd booked a trip to Belgium at the end of my rental contract but living day by day and compassion to those closest seems the to be the best option right now.

What a mess!


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shit, keep that head up buddy!

 

[Swiss_goupil]

The situation in the U.K. is surreal. The feeling is the government has done everything to protect the economy first, population second. They have waited long enough to make sure their mesures will be supported by the population. Part-nationalisation of large companies have started already (funnily enough nearly no article talks about this in the press). You can really see which private sectors are the main financial supporters of the government, insurers being at the top. At the end of this, when the dust will settle, the rich and powerful will be wealthier for sure, much wealthier .

But I really feel for people living in the US. Europe has been slow to react (I live in the UK, absolute worst country in counter virus measures terms) and it is a real pain to watch my italiens and Spanish compatriots struggle, but I sincerely fear for the American people. They have by far the worst heathcare system of most of the countries affected and believe they are going to be the hardest hit country very very soon.


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[nipe]

Word on that brother!


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Mate, what the f*ck is going on in your country (Sweden)?? I read an article about people still sitting in huge numbers outside in cafés completely ignorant to what's happening in the world?? Is this for real? Is the government not doing anything??

Pic unfortunately related (From this weekend)

 

[timnic54]

Thailand is on Lockdown . All bars and restaurants closed. However I just had diner at my favorite beach restaurant with live music.

 

[timnic54]

In the UK we've seen some signs of social disorder but nothing compared to what is to come. I work in Security and study part time. I hand in my final assignment in 6 days and I'm struggling to find the time and energy to finish it. No allowances from my tutor, if it's not in by the 30th I fail the course even despite 500k words across 11 assignments, 8 distinctions and 2 pass grades, one yet to be awarded. My phone hasn't stopped. Balancing work, study, my kids who aren't with me till Friday, my parents who are in their 70's and some distance away relying on my sister who has been quarantined and her ill teacher husband has not been easy. I just took delivery of a Tesla Model 3 and I can't charge it anywhere! Plan had been to leave it at the local train station every day, got my subscription with polar plus sorted, now I can't use public transport, am in isolation anyway, and the car barely has any battery left in case of emergency.

Don't think I'm mentally or physically strong enough if I do get sick, I'm reliant on benzos for sleeping while I study which I'm gonna have to deal with from the 30th. Tried to come off already and it wasn't pretty.

Had already made the decision to break up with my GF who I live with a few months ago but we have a rental contract til August, she's a lovely girl who's in terrible pain with her teeth - two root canals yesterday and it looks like she is going to lose her job. Seems inhumane to go ahead with this any time soon as she needs my support regardless of my feelings - she's done nothing wrong just isn't 'the one'....seems strange saying this on a watch forum wearing a gold daytona but her materialism just wears me down.

Just to add to the drama, I confessed my feelings to the girl I realised I was in love with in January and she admitted the same. I've known her for about 15 years, and everyone has always suspected it, but we took a while to admit it to ourselves. Trouble is she's in Sydney and I'm the UK...we'd booked a trip to Belgium at the end of my rental contract but living day by day and compassion to those closest seems the to be the best option right now.

What a mess!


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I've lived through all this kind of shit. I am 4 times divorced 65 years old and now live with my lovely Chinese girlfriend who is 36 years younger than me and studied English literature in Uni, so no language problem . Life is f*** up.

Mate if you want to talk PM me I am here, balanced and happy to talk.

Keep your chin up.

 

[ssouthall6]

I've lived through all this kind of shit. I am 4 times divorced 65 years old and now live with my lovely Chinese girlfriend who is 36 years younger than me and studied English literature in Uni, so no language problem . Life is f*** up.

Mate if you want to talk PM me I am here, balanced and happy to talk.

Keep your chin up.

Thank you mate. Appreciated!


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[Dmage]

Thank you mate. Appreciated!


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Your situation isn’t that bad. I didn’t see you lose your job or are under financial distress like many, many ppl around me.

 

[timnic54]

Your situation isn’t that bad. I didn’t see you lose your job or are under financial distress like many, many ppl around me.

How does anyone know anyone else's pain. Financial situations are not everything

 

[Dmage]

How does anyone know anyone else's pain. Financial situations are not everything

I never said anything about "pain". It's just situation-wise, no matter how messy you make it sounds like, as long as you have resources to solve your problem, you have a good chance of solving them.

 

[Nanook65]

At the moment, most countries have realised that this is pretty much unstoppable.

I would say that probably at least 3 months ago just about anyone that was either an expert in this area or had done just a bit of reading would have said it was unstoppable even Jan 1, 2020

Most of what you say echos what the experts say, but you are wrong on a couple....

Social distancing is not a tool to prevent people from getting the virus. It is a tool to delay people from getting the virus. This is the ‘flattening the curve’ phenomenon that people are seeing pasted all over their social media.

You are mostly right here, but Quarantine/Social Distancing is precisely to prevent people from getting the Virus. While the argument that people may get it anyway could be entirely true, still the whole reason for Social Distancing/Quarantine it so the Virus does not have new hosts and then burns itself out & thus does prevent (at least some/many) people from getting the virus.

There won’t be a vaccine in the near future - which needs at least 12 months for it to be developed and then put in human clinical trials to be declared effective and safe. The vaccine must be given to healthy people - not sick - so it would be unethical to do that if we were not convinced that a. It works and b. It does no harm. There is no country in the world that can run that clinical trial at the moment in a judicious manner.

This you are WAY off base on. There are already several Vaccines for the Coronavirus and they are already doing human trials on them. This has been widely reported and confirmed so I don't know where you get this info. I heard an interview with the CEO of a small Biotech co that said once they have the DNA sequencing from a virus it takes them 3 hours to develop a Vaccine. You might not believe this, but even if he was off by a factor of 100 a Vaccine could easily be developed in a weeks time or so, not a year like you suggest.

Testing is another thing. I get it that you don't want to just start giving a Vaccine to people without any evidence that it works, but at the same time in desperate times people take desperate measures. The world NEEDS a Vaccine for this thing and quick so I say lets go and get it done asap.

 

[ssouthall6]

Your situation isn’t that bad. I didn’t see you lose your job or are under financial distress like many, many ppl around me.

You're right. My GF is losing hers, and I feel for everyone who lives hand to mouth and will be effected by the inevitable economic downturn.

I don't consider my situation so bad, I have liquidity and assets with no financial commitments or debt, but I do feel helpless for my parents and children who I want to help but can't.


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[thorne]

I would say that probably at least 3 months ago just about anyone that was either an expert in this area or had done just a bit of reading would have said it was unstoppable even Jan 1, 2020

Most of what you say echos what the experts say, but you are wrong on a couple....

You are mostly right here, but Quarantine/Social Distancing is precisely to prevent people from getting the Virus. While the argument that people may get it anyway could be entirely true, still the whole reason for Social Distancing/Quarantine it so the Virus does not have new hosts and then burns itself out & thus does prevent (at least some/many) people from getting the virus.


This you are WAY off base on. There are already several Vaccines for the Coronavirus and they are already doing human trials on them. This has been widely reported and confirmed so I don't know where you get this info. I heard an interview with the CEO of a small Biotech co that said once they have the DNA sequencing from a virus it takes them 3 hours to develop a Vaccine. You might not believe this, but even if he was off by a factor of 100 a Vaccine could easily be developed in a weeks time or so, not a year like you suggest.

Testing is another thing. I get it that you don't want to just start giving a Vaccine to people without any evidence that it works, but at the same time in desperate times people take desperate measures. The world NEEDS a Vaccine for this thing and quick so I say lets go and get it done asap.

To prevent people from getting the disease, technically prevention would mean a vaccine.

I did say 12 months for vaccine development and then clinical trials. There are vaccines ready for trials, and others being developed. Everyone wants to make one, and everyone that has the resources to do it is working overtime. Some are already in human trials, there’s even one that just started in the US.

However there’s a BIG difference between vaccines being in human trials, and it being declared ready for public use. Various experts have mentioned a duration of 12 months or longer to go public (including Prof Fauci).

Extreme times do call for desperate measures, but I do not think any health authority, any government and any president is going to risk vaccinating all their healthy citizens (including the elderly and children, let’s not forget) without an armorclad guarantee that the new vaccine at the very least does what it says on the tin: it works, has no short/long term side effects and is considered safe.

Anyone doing that without all the definitive data at their disposal is literally playing with human lives.

You will only have that guarantee once you vaccinate a large number of healthy people of different ethnicities/populations and ages, and monitor them over a number of months (not just a few weeks) to see if the vaccine either:
A. Works in all ages and populations as expected
B. Doesn’t work (cos the damn virus mutated by then and is now a different strain). Flu viruses mutate all the time, which is why the existing flu vaccine isn’t always effective.

This vaccine can’t do anything for those that are already ill. But it could have a transformational effect on the healthy (specially the elderly when it comes to this coronavirus) and society at large. It’s important for healthcare to try and get it right the first time, and getting things right always takes time and resource.

We don’t have either of those right now, but it doesn’t mean we should throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[wkim8732]

This you are WAY off base on. There are already several Vaccines for the Coronavirus and they are already doing human trials on them. This has been widely reported and confirmed so I don't know where you get this info. I heard an interview with the CEO of a small Biotech co that said once they have the DNA sequencing from a virus it takes them 3 hours to develop a Vaccine. You might not believe this, but even if he was off by a factor of 100 a Vaccine could easily be developed in a weeks time or so, not a year like you suggest.

Testing is another thing. I get it that you don't want to just start giving a Vaccine to people without any evidence that it works, but at the same time in desperate times people take desperate measures. The world NEEDS a Vaccine for this thing and quick so I say lets go and get it done asap.

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/03/2...s-vaccine/amp/

12-18 months

 

[GingerBubba]

I'm not scientifically minded, but if they rush this stuff through without lengthy trials, is there not a danger of a repeat of the thalidomide crisis of years past? Or is the class of drugs they're using for this safer?

 

[erick510]

I would say that probably at least 3 months ago just about anyone that was either an expert in this area or had done just a bit of reading would have said it was unstoppable even Jan 1, 2020

Most of what you say echos what the experts say, but you are wrong on a couple....

You are mostly right here, but Quarantine/Social Distancing is precisely to prevent people from getting the Virus. While the argument that people may get it anyway could be entirely true, still the whole reason for Social Distancing/Quarantine it so the Virus does not have new hosts and then burns itself out & thus does prevent (at least some/many) people from getting the virus.


This you are WAY off base on. There are already several Vaccines for the Coronavirus and they are already doing human trials on them. This has been widely reported and confirmed so I don't know where you get this info. I heard an interview with the CEO of a small Biotech co that said once they have the DNA sequencing from a virus it takes them 3 hours to develop a Vaccine. You might not believe this, but even if he was off by a factor of 100 a Vaccine could easily be developed in a weeks time or so, not a year like you suggest.

Testing is another thing. I get it that you don't want to just start giving a Vaccine to people without any evidence that it works, but at the same time in desperate times people take desperate measures. The world NEEDS a Vaccine for this thing and quick so I say lets go and get it done asap.

I've worked in pharma is still a long process 18 months before it hits the market in the US clinical trials and approval from the FDA

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