daytona4me said:Well, he posted in the thread where Dave123 made the comment about Hont's source and ability to get AP (which is the specific source as quoted by Andrew that he would threaten) and Hont posted in this very same thread stating that his ability to obtain any watch will not be interrupted. If I did not have the knowledge that I have, I'd tell you that although he did not say "It's True.. It's True" truth in the story can be assumed, not to mention he directly addresses the comments by dave123 and by me that he is not worried about being interrupted.
Also, this information was originally told by Hont to someone highly respected on the Admin team, and then independently confirmed by me with Hont. In addition to this, the fact that Ruby had previously stated to staff and non staff alike as well as directly to me, that her source was tampered (lack of a better word) with by the same dealer / group as well, it certainly lends credibility to the story.
[RANT]Here is a big difference between RWI and other boards. We have pushed down this road before. We have been accused of back door dealing ???? yet.. hold these dealers feet to the fire to benefit the members. Do you see the same action taken elsewhere (outside of the little white lies thread)?
J&A have not posted a new watch here (with the exception of the Skyland.. but that in itself appears to have had an ulterior motive behind it) in 1/2 year.. yet actively update elsewhere.... the reason I have been told is because they dont think they can get a fair shake here. They feel anytime their names come up we are dealerbashing J&A ... which is crazy. We do not find problems to take to them... these problems present themselves and membership discusses them and I have to say that without any shadow of doubt.
If staff were not to discuss an issue like this presented to them.. and then bring it to the membership for their knowledge... what would that say about RWI staff ? Would you trust them.... YET... it is RWI staff that is being slandered by some members for performing their function... and that is to arm it's members with the best possible information.
Then I love to hear someone talk about a "negative attitude... or a negative vibe" here... WTF is wrong with you!
RWI could make it peaches and cream and we can sign all the live long day... and this be the happiest place in the world... never discuss anything that is offensive to anyone... and cover up anything that might upset the balance... in essence... we could run a giant flee market / garage sale where all we do is supply dealers with business. That would be perfect ... right?? Hell yes!! Then dealers would give us all kinds of watches to raffle...they would run all kinds of contests... and everyone would be merry!WAKE UP! Ever wonder why we purchase the watches out of our own money (most of the time with few exceptions)? It is because most dealers do not want to donate to a forum where we have held their feat to the fire.
(THIS IS WHERE I MUST SAY THAT THERE ARE ONLY A HAND FULL OF DEALERS THAT HAVE SOME MAJOR ISSUES THAT THEY ARE ACCUSED OF... others like Narikaa , PT, Wacko.. etc... really have not had issues like this brought up).
DIRECT QUESTION TO THE MEMBERSHIP.... AT WHAT POINT WILL SOMEONE STOP LISTENING TO THE HORSE s**t THAT IS BEING SPREAD AND REALIZE THAT RWI HAS PAID AND STILL CONTINUES TO PAY A HEAVY PRICE FOR DEMANDING ANSWERS, FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO PROBLEMS, FOR INFORMING IT'S MEMBERS OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT UPSET THEM.
BUT IT IS RWI THAT CONTINUES TO BE CALLED BAD NAMES, "A JOKE", "MUPPETS".. I HAVE TO THINK THAT IT IS SOMEONE ELSE WITH A DEALERS HAND UP THEIR ASSES!
MAKE A DECISION FOLKS... DO YOU WANT EAR-CANDY... OR SOME TRUTH.. ?? [/RANT]
i realize this is all old news for most, but i joined in late '08 n have only just now come across this entire thread. was always kinda curious as to why the twins weren't here; knew in general that it had to do w/ misrepresentation of product and price-gauging, but never got the full story 'til now, WOW.
i gotta say, i've never had more love and respect for this forum, its staff/admin, and dedicated contributing members/experts. i first found another forum but seem to spend most of my rep reading time here. now i know why. sometimes the way is long, hard, and on a winding path. and sometimes, it's supposed to be that way, for no other reason than the easy path is where you'll likely find everybody else, and how do you distinguish yourself then?
once again, my compliments to the staff and admin.
