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obrienk

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Hi, can you do anything with an Omega SMP Ceramic bezel? The standard rep inset comes with white markers, but the gen is grey (platinum?)

The gen markers are also flush with the bezel, not laser etched / engraved
 

ussdassein

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Hi, can you do anything with an Omega SMP Ceramic bezel? The standard rep inset comes with white markers, but the gen is grey (platinum?)

The gen markers are also flush with the bezel, not laser etched / engraved

Sorry i know nothing about Omega maybe yes maybe no

Can you send me pics where i can see the problem?
 

k4jun

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Sorry i know nothing about Omega maybe yes maybe no

Can you send me pics where i can see the problem?

Mate, it would be great if you succeed in developing a mod for Omega SMPc. The whole community is waiting for such mod.
Here is some info to help

Omega never used the so-called Liquidmetal in the ceramic 300m model (SMPc). Liquidmetal is an alloy - zirconium, titanium, copper, nickel and beryllium, but 300m is the entry-level model for Omega and they probably will never use it. Let's forget about the Liquidmetal.
SMPc insert looks very metal-like, however, it is not metal.
Gen insert does use a compound - chromium nitride for filling of the engravings, I do not know whether the compound is applied via PVD or via multi-layer painting, I guess you know the techniques much better than me anyway.

Here is the rep on gen, so you can feel the colour. For me, the gen filling has a titanium/silver colour.
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Gen shines when zoomed-out
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and when you zoon-in - a structure on the markers is visible.
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You can also see that gen edges are not sharp, they are slightly bevelled, like rollie
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also, the markings should not flush with the insert. The filling is slightly below the level of a ceramic.
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To sum up,

Rep insert markers:
- white paint (or silver paint in MKF V2/V3 - it does not matter as it is still rubbish),
- deep engravings just painted inside,
- sharp edges,

Gen insert markers:
- silver/titanium colour,
- filling (chromium nitride) almost to the top of the engraving,
- bevelled edges,

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This insert is more complex than rollie, but should be doable.
What do you think?
 
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ussdassein

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Ok thx when i understand it right the rep is to deep to sharp edges and wrong colour right ?
 

k4jun

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Correct

There are 3 factories: MKF, BP and OMF/JHF.
Do not touch BP, their engravings are very deep and a "ceramic" is faux ceramic.
MKF and OMF are pretty much the same.
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ussdassein

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Correct

There are 3 factories: MKF. BP and OMF/JHF.
Do not touch BP, their engravings are very deep and a "ceramic" is faux ceramic.
MKF and OMF are pretty much the same.
lCDsX.jpg

Ok thx for info so they are not real ceramic :(

Have you a insert for me i can try it and it is not important that it is junk after i have do something wrong?
 

k4jun

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Ok thx for info so they are not real ceramic :(

Have you a insert for me i can try it and it is not important that it is junk after i have do something wrong?

Only BP is not real ceramic.
I will check my box;)
 

ussdassein

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Hy it will be nice when you can do but i can make it to send me a pm :)
 

ussdassein

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This is a vrf complete mod (plating + edges) not completely cleaned but so you can see it is the same process like you know who i mean :)
(in triangle is only a hairand rest is dust)

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Great work buddy. Show my sd43 if you like,its looks great.


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