The RG version looks amazing in my opinionThe new variants of IWCs Ingenieur are imo the best presentations today. Although they are too expensive ...
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Watches and Wonders 2025 Discussion
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Agree, a real shame. And for what I'm concerned, it's not only about tool watches. I also don't like the fashion of adding subdials making chronos, perpetual calendars and whatnot to originally time only models. This relates to most brands except Rolex.
That's all well and good, but I see it from a rep-freak's perspective. Three-hand models may be beautifully simple in design, but at least for me, it's the complications that "justify" the sometimes extremely high price. And the perpetual calendar is at the top of the list. Personally, I could imagine spending 25k on an Ingenieur with a perpetual calendar rather than 15k on the three-hand version... even though I know full well that the other movement does not justify the 10k surcharge ;-)
Hahaha wow they’re all out of ideas..
The latest Pateks though, stunning.. as you would expect, expect that cubitus ugly POS
The latest Pateks though, stunning.. as you would expect, expect that cubitus ugly POS
I could imagine spending 15k on a perpetual calendar watch that was born as a perpetual calendar watch. Not on an integrated bracelet time-only watch that was stuffed with complications for the sake of revenues.
That´s ok. I just wanted to sell you the 26586TI for 15k but now I sell her on Chrono24 ;-)
That's what I was talking about. That and his cousins, Laureato, Alpine Eagle, Zenith...That´s ok. I just wanted to sell you the 26586TI for 15k but now I sell her on Chrono24 ;-)
I guess in the end it´s a question of personal taste. But ultimately, it's also a question of what aspects of watchmaking you value. In the case of the 26586TI, for example, AP has managed to integrate a perpetual calendar into a watch that is just 6.2mm thick. Of course, this wouldn't be possible in a visually appealing way with a classic PC design like the one you have in mind. That's what the RO design lends itself to.
Perhaps in the end it is just the classic pursuit of ‘faster, higher, better’. But somehow the top league brands also have to justify their prices. With three hand watches that's getting harder and harder... and of course you're right, it's also about the profits.
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Do they still have the ‘screw problem’? In the first photos, the screws on the bezel were never aligned. That looked wild ;-)
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What a pity. The bezel screws in particular are naturally überpresent on this model. And this flaw simply cannot be unseen.A little... maybe not the best
You can rectify it, but you really need the fitting tool or you'll end up mangling the front screws.
Tudor's issues are a big letdown....
Upsize this, color down this, make this deeper (=thicker). Very "rolexy". Boring and unimaginative.
Upsize this, color down this, make this deeper (=thicker). Very "rolexy". Boring and unimaginative.
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It really feels like Tudor is limited alot by Rolex.
Okay, 43mm Pelagos Ultra at 5k, in Titanium priced 1/2 of the Seadweller, but let's make sure it doesn't technically beat the Seadweller in depth otherwise we look stupid.....
It somewhat contradicts the widespread notion that Rolex uses Tudor to dare, bring out stuff that, if it works, will appear in Rolex offerings a few years after. Whixh could make sense, but in this case....
And concerning the "being technically better" (or worse), it's also something that in the great scheme of things doesn't make much sense. Only us watch nerds will appreciate something like that, but the vast majority of Rolex owners want a Rolex, not a Tudor, regardless of what it cann or can not do. Tudor's turnover is 5% of Rolex'. There really is no challenge.
Ok, if the Tudor discussion has run dry, let's talk about this:
We had this before. Sometimes a PC in a sports watch case looks better than a PC in a PC-CaseOk, if the Tudor discussion has run dry, let's talk about this:
Honestly: This one is just too fat for my taste.
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Patek has been slowly losing the plot for a while now. What did we get. Smaller Cubitus in white gold, rolled out with very little fanfare (oops Thierry Stein released maybe making a 45mm chunker for his wrist was not the market target audience for Patek), the same old Calatravas, a new Travel Time... ok coolWe had this before. Sometimes a PC in a sports watch case looks better than a PC in a PC-Case
Honestly: This one is just too fat for my taste.
8 day calatrava in a 11mm case... cool but nothing exciting
Sapphire dial retrograde perpetual calender... ugly
16mm 42mm perpetual minute repeater... i mean it's larger than a fucking Panerai. I do admit the back of the watch is very pretty though,.
And like all Patek releases you will have a rabid section of collectors to defend them
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