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VSF3235 - VR3235 Comparison

KJ2020

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Hi man do you have the possibility to measure also the real lift angle of the new Shanghai vr3285?
I don't have that movement on hand but it will mostly likely be 52.
 

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I think I am in the wrong place but have few questions about vr3235 and vs3235. I want to build a dj36 (vs movement, vs dial and vs hands, clean case, clean bracelet and deep crystal+ gen bezel).
Is the movement swap (vs movemnt to clean case) possible without further modifications? Do I need to change/mod the crown and stem?
 

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I think I am in the wrong place but have few questions about vr3235 and vs3235. I want to build a dj36 (vs movement, vs dial and vs hands, clean case, clean bracelet and deep crystal+ gen bezel).
Is the movement swap (vs movemnt to clean case) possible without further modifications? Do I need to change/mod the crown and stem?
Yes and yes.

The vs movement will fit in a clean case. You will need to swap the crown & stem since the vs movement is a different stem than the VR movement.
 
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Yes and yes.

The vs movement will fit in a clean case. You will need to swap the crown & stem since the vs movement is a different stem than the VR movement.
Thank you! It looks like an easy job. Let’s see irl.
 

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hello to all friends
First of all good post.
I have a VSF 3135 Frankenstein in a VR Deepsea case kit assembled by me, starting from the plate, I have adapted many gen parts, except the balance, plate, dial and some small parts, and I have to say that it is a great movement and that after 3 years has not suffered wear.
I would like to mount my 3135 in a JVS Deepsea, better than my VR kit, this one has the VR3235 movement, and as I have read here, it is built from the VR3135, especially the upper part, I have a VR3135, but I don't have any VR3235 , My question is this...
Does anyone know if removing the VR3235, I could mount my 3135, would the seat post match or is the elevation different?
From what I have read, the diameter remains the same at 28.5 but I have a doubt about the height with the dial mounted, as for the dial, I would have to reposition one of the feet since the one at 37 is the same.
Thank you so much





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but both movements are as silent to the ear as the gen ?
 

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Really great posts and thread.
 

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but both movements are as silent to the ear as the gen ?
I believe most clone movements are just fine considering the cost, but I would not assume they are as silent as a genuine Swiss movement.
 

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I believe most clone movements are just fine considering the cost, but I would not assume they are as silent as a genuine Swiss movement.
The only movements which are noticeably loud (to me) are the Asian tourbillon movements. I did an analysis a while ago and found them to be about 3db (as in x2) louder than movements like the vs3235 or dd4130.

 
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The only movements which are noticeably loud (to me) are the Asian tourbillon movements. I did an analysis a while ago and found them to be about 3db (as in x2) louder than movements like the vs3235 or dd4130.


Good info, Pete! Thank you!
 
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Is the VS3235 the same in all watch variants? For instance, is the same movement that’s in the dj41 the same that’s in the sub40 the same that’s in the Yachtmaster 42? I recently purchased the ym42 with a VS3235 but I’m hard pressed to find any gen parts out of Yachtmaster. I have come across gen date wheels, balances, etc out of the other mentioned models, are they all a 1:1 swap? Thanks!
 

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Is the VS3235 the same in all watch variants? For instance, is the same movement that’s in the dj41 the same that’s in the sub40 the same that’s in the Yachtmaster 42? I recently purchased the ym42 with a VS3235 but I’m hard pressed to find any gen parts out of Yachtmaster. I have come across gen date wheels, balances, etc out of the other mentioned models, are they all a 1:1 swap? Thanks!

The Submariner 40mm got a different movement, the 3135.
The Submariner 41mm got a different datewheel compared to the Yacht Master.
 

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Is the VS3235 the same in all watch variants? For instance, is the same movement that’s in the dj41 the same that’s in the sub40 the same that’s in the Yachtmaster 42? I recently purchased the ym42 with a VS3235 but I’m hard pressed to find any gen parts out of Yachtmaster. I have come across gen date wheels, balances, etc out of the other mentioned models, are they all a 1:1 swap? Thanks!
There are two versions of the vs3235: one with a large date disc which is used in the DJ41 and YM42; and a small date disc version which is found in the 41mm sub.
 

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Can anyone confirm that the VS3235 did an silent update?
I just got a Submariner 41 in from Steve and there is absolutely no (over)winding issue anymore which was usually in those movements.
Maybe you know anything about that @KJ2020 ?
That would make this movement my new favorite 3235 clone movement😂
 

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That’s interesting. What serial number does it have?
 

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Can anyone confirm that the VS3235 did an silent update?
I just got a Submariner 41 in from Steve and there is absolutely no (over)winding issue anymore which was usually in those movements.
Maybe you know anything about that @KJ2020 ?
That would make this movement my new favorite 3235 clone movement😂

What overwinding issue are you speaking of? Modern watch mainsprings slip in the barrel when maximum tension is reached so there is no overwinding.
 
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What overwinding issue are you speaking of? Modern watch mainsprings slip in the barrel when maximum tension is reached so there is no overwinding.



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When fully wound it feels like sliding through of ratchet wheel and sliding gear. KJ2020 mentioned because of a very thi, cheap washer. I thought this may have been updated now. I had this winding issue on every vs3235 i had till now (where about 5-6).
 
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What overwinding issue are you speaking of? Modern watch mainsprings slip in the barrel when maximum tension is reached so there is no overwinding.
I read somewhere that the barrel is sealed on the vs3235 and can’t be serviced. Are the mainsprings thinner longer or stronger in some way? Just trying to figure out how they were able to boost the power reserve to 72 hrs in the reps. I read they boosted the Gen 3235 about 15% through less mass and inertia by skeletonizing the escape wheel. However that still doesn’t account for all the additional boost they achieved in the Gen 3235. These are really incredible movements but I wonder if trade off were made or actual improvements. What’s your thoughts on the 3235 and common problems you’ve encountered?
 
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