VSF Sub 116610 Stem broken Tube is glued into case not screwed

[Watch Hunter]

What does > mean?

Greater

 

[engbanna1]

Thank you. I think that's it.

So what is the conclusion?
@KJ2020 did you have a chance to look at some of your VSF stems? I really want to know if this messy stem and tube construction applies to all VSF subs?

 

[roromush]

So what is the conclusion?
@KJ2020 did you have a chance to look at some of your VSF stems? I really want to know if this messy stem and tube construction applies to all VSF subs?

Same here, would be nice to know

 

[GROLX]

> means "superior"

 

[GROLX]

I don't think, that is the case here. I missed posting the picture of the tube. You can see it below. The Part, that went into the case is completely smooth, not threaded and nothing seems to be snapped off the tube. I am now genuinely interested if I bought a complete shitty batch and other VSF Subs are gen spec in this area, or if VSF Subs are only great on looks and completely off when it comes to construction.


No, it is a 116610LV dial might look black in some lightning, but it is green. Also, the case shape and lugs are in line with an 116610. For the movement, please see the image below.

Where do you get that kind of piece ? I have the same issue on one sub (low quality, bought 2 years ago).
How old is your VSF by the way ?

 

[KJ2020]

So what is the conclusion?
@KJ2020 did you have a chance to look at some of your VSF stems? I really want to know if this messy stem and tube construction applies to all VSF subs?

I don't have a VSF 116x Sub on hand. But none of my VSF 126x Subs have this different type of stem. I have worked on some VSF 116x Subs and surely would have noticed if any had it.

Additionally, the VSF 3135 movements come with a stem. I have a couple newly purchased movements that both have the normal type of stem.

Take a very close look at your serial number. If it is indeed K25 and not R25, then I doubt yours is a VSF. There were multiple "fake" VSFs put out after they were raided.

As an aside, take a look at this new gen 4131 stem. It looks similar to yours so apparently Rolex has changed their decades old stem construction.

 

[KJ2020]

What does > mean?

> means "is greater than"

 

[GROLX]

Take a very close look at your serial number. If it is indeed K25 and not R25, then I doubt yours is a VSF. There were multiple "fake" VSFs put out after they were raided.

I do not understand as K25 is known to be VSF numbers for about a year or more (i do not remember) but K25 was the "last" and requested number...

Can you explain more your point about K25 numbers ?

 

[KJ2020]

Can you explain more your point about K25 numbers ?

It was used in some fake VSFs

I wouldn't expect VSF to use a stem like that. But then it's continually surprising what turns up in these reps.

The tube, stem, and crown issue shouldn't be terribly difficult to fix. Plenty of good suggestions here. The movement is a VS3135 and the watch looks good overall. So maybe just an unusual batch or parts supplier, who knows.

 

[FischersFritze]

It is a K25 serial. I bought it in April 2023 from a TD on the forum, no second hand or anything like that. From my knowledge, K25 serials were back then the latest known VSF serials for their hulks. I think there is a part of the tube still inside the case, as suggested. I still can't remove the broken part inside the case. So can't change the tube and crown to a new one. If I can't fix it myself, I will either keep the watch for parts or will sell it for parts.

 

[FischersFritze]

Thanks for all your help and suggestions to fix the issue and clarifying what's up with the watch.

 

[KJ2020]

If I can't fix it myself, I will either keep the watch for parts or will sell it for parts.

That would be a real shame. You could try soaking the case in acetone overnight. Then use the file or EasyOut method to unscrew the tube.

Acetone (Goof Off) will loosen up any adhesive in there. It evaporates quickly though so you need to put it in a ziplock bag while soaking. A small shallow pan is ideal. Don't let the fluid level go higher than it needs to and keep it away from the cyclops. This is easy to do.

I did this to remove a socket I had to epoxy to a caseback that had burrs in several threads and wouldn't come off. The acetone worked despite there being a large amount of epoxy involved.

 

[Karbon74]

once you do the acetone bath, you can also buy and try this tool

 

[heska]

I had one of the first VSF hulk batch (S19) and i remember my stem was constructed like this (fixed length). Isn't it the way gen are built?

 

[Raddave]

What does > mean?

Greater than

 

[KJ2020]

I had one of the first VSF hulk batch (S19) and i remember my stem was constructed like this (fixed length). Isn't it the way gen are built?

Not up to 2023, anyway AFAIK

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This gen 4131 stem is different though

 

[KJ2020]

Any chance your stem unscrews at the arrow? Maybe you just have a really short threaded section.

 

[Zeta7]

Esslingers is probably gonna have what you need. Here’s a place to start. Good luck. Let us know if you’re able to fix it.

Esslinger.com

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[BeastModeM3]

VSF Submariners are from bad to worse. I have received many with problems such as datewheel jumps two days, clasps doesn’t close/click in a good manner, bezel action clogging, etc. Not to mention the weight, a year a go, I used to get 157-159g on all VSF lines, now, I barely get 152g!

The stems, or are you saying that VSF in general isn't good? Not sure I've read anyone say that yet lol.

 

[Zeta7]

The stems, or are you saying that VSF in general isn't good? Not sure I've read anyone say that yet lol.

I had my vsf Starbucks serviced about a month after getting it. It was a damn good watch right out of the box but it’s a great watch now. Just saying