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VSF PAM979 new release

superspark69

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What do you guys think about the cannon pinion on the rep? My TD sent me some QC photos from another customer's order and it appears that the cannon pinion is hollow and brass colored. It appears solid and silver in the gen photos. I think this could be distracting. Has anyone who has received the watch noticed this coloring?

Perhaps a photo?
 

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certainly looks different to the other qc photos posted but could be lighting but photo not really clear enough to say either way.
 

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Yeah it is more noticeable in some of the other QC photos he sent me. It definitely looks brass and hollow but I have never seen a GEN in person to know exactly what it should look like. Just seems like it might be even more noticeable on an all black watch if it isn't the correct shape and/or color.
 

pioneer41

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I did look at the other QC photos and in some it appears brass and in others it doesn't.
 

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I went through different QC photos of at least 5 different PAM979 and none of them had brass colored canon pinion. I do agree that it is some reflection caught on the photos..
 

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I went through different QC photos of at least 5 different PAM979 and none of them had brass colored canon pinion. I do agree that it is some reflection caught on the photos..

Good call guys! I went back through my QC photos and you are right. I think the CP is so shiny that it was just reflecting back the yellow ceiling light. Back on the order list!
 

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Just been trying the gen on in the boutique, the lume and text is definaltely a darker grey than on the panerai website, will let you know what I think when my vsf arrives at the end of the week

This !

I might ask for much but Is there any way for you to return in the boutique and take wristies please ? :)
 

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This !

I might ask for much but Is there any way for you to return in the boutique and take wristies please ? :)

There are some wristies on-line (it is still a new release and not a cheap watch so available photo are limited but exist).

Hint : go over at IG and search for PAM979 and you’ll get what you are after. Go over at Paneristi and look for photos,..
 

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There are some wristies on-line (it is still a new release and not a cheap watch so available photo are limited but exist).

Hint : go over at IG and search for PAM979 and you’ll get what you are after. Go over at Paneristi and look for photos,..

Cheers;)

but I somehow always got a better feel for a watch from our gang members “raw and real” pictures...
 

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ernien Could I trouble you for a mini (super mini) review - just a few thoughts on how it feels, build quality, how it wears, weight, comfort, movement/winding feel etc - just a sentence or two pretty please?

No problem! Well the build quality is excellent, I have had all the Carbotech (616) versions from the original V6F to current. This is definitely the nicest case set of all of them. Now not only does the bezel have the triple colour layers, but so does the crown guard and case itself. Not only does this make it more gen like, it’s also more beautiful as each layer reflects light differently. As you turn your wrist, some layers will almost sparkle while others will be matte, really cool effect, and this effect now applies to the whole case set. This thing really looks awesome in the bright sun!

Adding to this effect is the dial which reminds me of the texture of AP’s forged carbon cases, and again, reflects light differently depending on position and lighting.

At 135g, very light for such a large watch, and surprisingly wearable on a 6.5” wrist. In comparison, the VSF PAM389 is 168g and the VSF PAM382 is 185g.

As for the movement, it’s basically the same VSF P9000 V2 that’s been in circulation for over two years with no major complaints. On the 979 it’s nice they updated the bridges to “P9010” although it will rarely be seen on a closed caseback. Rotor noise is minimal, and the jumping hour hand works correctly.

As for flaws, there’s the question of marker colour. The rep definitely appears white to me, not grey. The gen might have more grey, but it’s tough to accurately compare with internet photos, you really need to compare side by side. For me, this isn’t enough to prevent buying as it’s clearly not way off.

Another small flaw, like all rep Carbotech cases, is the crown guard inscriptions “REG” “TM”. They’re a little too deep which makes them look very dark, almost black, whereas the gen inscriptions don’t appear so dark. It’s the first thing I look for on Instrram photos to spot a rep or gen for the 616.

Ultimately what you get here is the great culmination of V6F/VSF’s experience on working on Carbotech cases for 5 years and perfecting the P9000 series clone movement for 2 1/2 years.

It’s a refined, quality rep, definitely worthy of a buy!
Let’s hope the drought of PAM reps is over :)
 

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No problem! Well the build quality is excellent, I have had all the Carbotech (616) versions from the original V6F to current. This is definitely the nicest case set of all of them. Now not only does the bezel have the triple colour layers, but so does the crown guard and case itself. Not only does this make it more gen like, it’s also more beautiful as each layer reflects light differently. As you turn your wrist, some layers will almost sparkle while others will be matte, really cool effect, and this effect now applies to the whole case set. This thing really looks awesome in the bright sun!

Adding to this effect is the dial which reminds me of the texture of AP’s forged carbon cases, and again, reflects light differently depending on position and lighting.

At 135g, very light for such a large watch, and surprisingly wearable on a 6.5” wrist. In comparison, the VSF PAM389 is 168g and the VSF PAM382 is 185g.

As for the movement, it’s basically the same VSF P9000 V2 that’s been in circulation for over two years with no major complaints. On the 979 it’s nice they updated the bridges to “P9010” although it will rarely be seen on a closed caseback. Rotor noise is minimal, and the jumping hour hand works correctly.

As for flaws, there’s the question of marker colour. The rep definitely appears white to me, not grey. The gen might have more grey, but it’s tough to accurately compare with internet photos, you really need to compare side by side. For me, this isn’t enough to prevent buying as it’s clearly not way off.

Another small flaw, like all rep Carbotech cases, is the crown guard inscriptions “REG” “TM”. They’re a little too deep which makes them look very dark, almost black, whereas the gen inscriptions don’t appear so dark. It’s the first thing I look for on Instrram photos to spot a rep or gen for the 616.

Ultimately what you get here is the great culmination of V6F/VSF’s experience on working on Carbotech cases for 5 years and perfecting the P9000 series clone movement for 2 1/2 years.

It’s a refined, quality rep, definitely worthy of a buy!
Let’s hope the drought of PAM reps is over :)

Many thanks and pls share some pictures also of this sunburst dial/case if you can :).
 

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Well that was more than a super mini report ernien !!! Thanks so much for taking the time.

Based on that, payment has been sent - literally. Now the wait begins :waiting:
 

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ernien amazing review, thanks for taking the time to write all your impressions about the watch. I’m now even more excited to get mine.
 

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Mine arrives Friday morning, hopefully the markers are more grey, when I tried the gen on yesterday the markers and text are definitely grey not white.
 

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Many thanks and pls share some pictures also of this sunburst dial/case if you can :).

Here’s a quick example of how the case changes in the sun just from rotating your wrist while standing in the same position.

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Indoors:
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I’ve just received my QC pics and found a bit of an issue with the 45 on the bezel.
Not rejected a watch before but think this is quite a noticeable problem. Has anyone else ever rejected for this sort of thing?
http://imgur.com/NLSW3pk