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[VSF] PAM1441

superspark69

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441 = older model (18mm thick)
1441 = new model with blue second hand (14mm thick)


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Kleineronkl

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One of my favorite pieces, excellent watch.
Mine too... This one will never leave me..
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Repworld

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i can’t find any 441 closed case back genuine, olso in Panerai website look not clear.


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Sharki06

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i can’t find any 441 closed case back genuine, olso in Panerai website look not clear.


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441 is the OLDER model, 18mm thick , open caseback
1441 is the new model , 14 mm thick, closed caseback


same rule apply for the one with the ceramic bracelet :

438 : OLDER model, 18 mm thick , open caseback
1438 NEW model , 14 mm thick , closed caseback

it's the second time we say it now :D
 
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Repworld

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441 is the OLDER model, 18mm thick , open caseback
1441 is the new model , 14 mm thick, closed caseback


same rule apply for the one with the ceramic bracelet :

438 : OLDER model, 18 mm thick , open caseback
1438 NEW model , 14 mm thick , closed caseback

it's the second time we say it now :D

i thought there’s 441 closed case back new model, very tricky models and case materials..


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Sharki06

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wooo disapointing !

i don't understand how they can miss the thickness on ceramic , 1661 in carbotech is about 15mm and the new 1312 is also at 15mm :(
 

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wooo disapointing !

i don't understand how they can miss the thickness on ceramic , 1661 in carbotech is about 15mm and the new 1312 is also at 15mm :(
Maybe the GMT function adds a little thickness.

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Sharki06

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Maybe the GMT function adds a little thickness.

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i was thinking of that too, but the VSF 1033 GMT is at 16.3mm it's always 1.1 mm less :) ... and with an open caseback (that eat always around 1 / 1.5 mm i think) ....
 

preppyr6

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Thanks, I think that settles the thickness discussion. Too bad they couldn't get the 1441 to gen thickness.

Thats a bummer, but my wallet is happy...until next month when VSF comes with something else like they always do
 

jonnybaws

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So...other than the thickness, the rest of the watch is pretty good? I'm tempted but also quite like the slimmer cases of the 1312 and 1314....
 

jonnybaws

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To rephrase a little ... you get 441 with solid caseback and blue second.

Which isn't to say its a bad thing... then again, its late, I'm going to sleep before I order something I shouldn't!
 

Repworld

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Any chance for v2 real super rep from maker, same 441 level?


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