VSF 126610 Submariner with VS3235 Latest Movement 72 Hours Power Reserve

UnluckyXIII · 19/1/21

JanONrwi said:
I'm concerned about width and spacing on right

I think it looks good and don’t believe you’ve got anything to worry about.

One thing to remember is the angle it’s been photographed at and that the item has also been photographed in-hand (meaning gravity comes into play and can make the clasp/bracelet drop and look like it has more of a gap).
I’ve also noticed that the factory lighting is very intense which seems to cause reflections and light bend on metallic surfaces which can cause distortion to the shape of the watch.

JanONrwi · 19/1/21

Thx for your answer. There is also link to my video QC which also show the clasp. I’m nooby probobly it was only my lack of expierience

Link to QC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7rUMQcjqR8

Therion666 · 19/1/21

Here are a couple of photos of SELs. My unit has a H7Z clasp.

Therion666 · 19/1/21

In case anyone's wondering what it looks like next to a BB58 blue. I kinda like the 58 more.. I've always hated green color on watches, but hoped that I could finally understand what it's all about...it didn't work

I mean I like it inside, the bezel looks very dark shiny green. But in the sun...eeewww...

YellowFin · 19/1/21

JanONrwi said:
I'm concerned about width and spacing on right

There seems to be a misconception about clasp gaps here. That thing is moving, it's not sitting in one exact position every time you close it or even while you're wearing it. The construction (also on gen) isn't that sturdy, see below shots just a few seconds apart.

RL1924 · 19/1/21

Just received my qcs from puretime, less than 24hrs from payment. I assume they have some in stocks. Either way thought I'd share, already accepted.

Sent from my SM-F916U1 using Tapatalk

WatchSmith.US · 19/1/21

Gen bracelet with gap. It's not unusual.

UnluckyXIII · 19/1/21

Just had the postman drop mine off, very fast turn around from Trusty Time, currently on a Teams for work but once I finish I’ll get some photos up;-

Therion666 · 19/1/21

I just saw this add on Chrono24:

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id17442609.htm

and you can actually see through gaps between the SELs and lugs. Can you guys see gaps too if you hold the watch against a light source?

Duckber · 19/1/21

Therion666 said:
I just saw this add on Chrono24:

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id17442609.htm

and you can actually see through gaps on SELs. Can you guys see gaps too if you hold it against a light source?

Personally those don't look like gaps but rather light reflecting off the edge of the case above the recessed end link. The bright light looks like clear space which gives the illusion of a gap. In another shot with the watch orientated on its side the light hits differently and you don't see what appear to be gaps anymore

You can also see the bright light I was talking about hitting this photo and why it would create the illusion of a gap once it hits the interior side of the case when it's flipped vertically

R3w1nd · 19/1/21

Duckber said:
Personally those don't look like gaps but rather light reflecting off the edge of the case above the recessed end link. The bright light looks like clear space which gives the illusion of a gap. In another shot with the watch orientated on its side the light hits differently and you don't see what appear to be gaps anymore

Don't know mate, looks pretty gappy to me.

You can find plenty gens with gaps and sels all over the place - stop worrying about things that do not matter and enjoy your pieces guys.

On the pics above: if this was a rep piece and not gen, it would never pass QC. Because is gen it's "acceptable".

Duckber · 19/1/21

R3w1nd said:
Don't know mate, looks pretty gappy to me.

You can find plenty gens with gaps and sels all over the place - stop worrying about things that do not matter and enjoy your pieces guys.

On the pics above: if this was a rep piece and not gen, it would never pass QC. Because is gen it's "acceptable".

Personally, I think this looks like light reflection. But to each their own. You can literally see the light source do the same thing when it's flipped horizontally.

I agree you can see gens with gaps, but I do not think this is an appropriate example of one of them.

To your second point, I wouldn't reject cause of this gen nor rep.

YellowFin · 19/1/21

Therion666 said:
I just saw this add on Chrono24:

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id17442609.htm

and you can actually see through gaps between the SELs and lugs. Can you guys see gaps too if you hold the watch against a light source?

Perfectly normal, you'll find that on almost every watch with a steel bracelet if you look close enough. And I'm not talking about reps. It. Doesn't. Matter.

fatarms · 19/1/21

muiramas said:
Looks great buddy. Plenty of gens with that same SEL...

Oh wow, thank you for posting those. That is exactly the way my SEL looks, it's recessed near the case but very close to flush near the end of the SEL on the lug end.

I'm not baiting with this at all, but Duckber what are your thoughts on this? My SEL looks just like the gens in the pics above, so it looks like there are variations even amongst the real thing. I know you're all for the complete SEL being recessed, but given that there are gens that have the same gradual transition, would this make the purchase any easier for you or are you holding out for a totally recessed SEL? Are there mods you can do to the SEL to achieve the look you want?

BTW, mine is and LN version with what we are calling a "first generation" H7Z clasp code. I think that is the wider of the two released clasps as well by half a mm if I recall correctly from like 40 pages ago?

StreetFighter · 19/1/21

Duckber said:
Personally those don't look like gaps but rather light reflecting off the edge of the case above the recessed end link. The bright light looks like clear space which gives the illusion of a gap. In another shot with the watch orientated on its side the light hits differently and you don't see what appear to be gaps anymore

It is 101% definitely a gap between the SEL and the case, top and bottom SEL... even the spring bar is visible.

StreetFighter · 19/1/21

Look at that bold DW too!

YellowFin · 19/1/21

modernclassic said:
It is 101% definitely a gap between the SEL and the case, top and bottom SEL... even the spring bar is visible.

No problem at all, clear greenlight! Here are some gen Rollies...

StreetFighter · 19/1/21

YellowFin said:
No problem at all, clear greenlight! ]

The pic I posted above (with SEL gap) is genuine.. from the chrono24 link above... ..and it was to counter Duckbers remark that it was just a reflection(!). It's obviously a gap.

R3w1nd · 19/1/21

There are tolerances in milling, cutting, polishing - there is always going to be a margin of error. some SELs will be tighter, some loser.

muiramas · 19/1/21

fatarms said:
My SEL looks just like the gens in the pics above, so it looks like there are variations even amongst the real thing.

It may not even be a variation - could have been intentional. Look at the meth-head moment from R factory that was the SEL on the SD4k...

Bottom line is there are plenty of gens which look just like yours!

Edit - And I like the SD4K. Best maxi case model IMO.

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