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Very disappointed with Kuvarsit. ME PAM 312 V2 NOT WORKING. No response to emails.
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Uberschall
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Exactly, all my KWs are absolutely stellar.
These types of problems occur with every manufacturer, gen or rep. Having a rep makes things a little more complicated due to their nature, but there are always solutions to these types of problems, especially when the movement is well-known.
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Um, I have no words to describe the wrongness of that statement! Where the hell do you think you live, the Upper Congo? The statement is as absurd as it is untrue and you have just insulted the several hundred watchmakers who live and work in this great country of ours. Yes it may be difficult to get someone to work on a rep but we have some of the best watchmakers in the world here (Nick Hacko springs to mind) and there are some 1486 Watchmaker 3 (ie: fully qualified, certified tradesmen watchmakers) registered with the guild all of whom you owe an apology to sir!
I suggest you pull your head in and think before making random statements that are erroneous, disparaging to your country and highly insulting to a band of hard working highly trained men and women. Within 50km of my home I would have a dozen WM3s including the guy who wrote the textbook that is used to teach clock making in a couple of dozen countries around the world and another who is regarded as one of the world's foremost repairers of vintage pocket watches. Last time I was at his place he was working on a piece from a collector in the EU with a value of well over 500,000 USD. It was one of the five pieces the collector had hand couriered to him for service. I'm currently waiting for him to make me a new balance staff for a 1780 pocket watch, he will then need to hand make a new hairspring for it as well as a couple of jewels. Meah, what would he know other than how to change a strap?
Very disappointed with Kuvarsit. ME PAM 312 V2 NOT WORKING. No response to em...
This is a rep forum. I am taking about my rep. OF COURSE I am talking about a watchsmith who would fix reps. This was in context of me trying to fix my rep Pam. Is it hard to understand.
So I hold true to my statement. Not a single watchsmith will fix reps in Australia. I have tried several times in Sydney. And now in Perth. None! Been to about 10 of them. They all say no! How come there is no one like Domi or Vac here? And if they are why is it that no one tells you who they are so you can get along with a simple hobby of buying and fixing your reps in Australia.
You are throwing around big names ask any of your friends if they will fix my rep? I bet they will say no.
What the hell do you think I am doing on a rep forum? Obviously I can't afford gens!!! So what kind of watch do you think I'll want to get fixed?? A REP!!!!
This is a rep forum. I am taking about my rep. OF COURSE I am talking about a watchsmith who would fix reps. This was in context of me trying to fix my rep Pam. Is it hard to understand.
So I hold true to my statement. Not a single watchsmith will fix reps in Australia. I have tried several times in Sydney. And now in Perth. None! Been to about 10 of them. They all say no! How come there is no one like Domi or Vac here? And if they are why is it that no one tells you who they are so you can get along with a simple hobby of buying and fixing your reps in Australia.
You are throwing around big names ask any of your friends if they will fix my rep? I bet they will say no.
What the hell do you think I am doing on a rep forum? Obviously I can't afford gens!!! So what kind of watch do you think I'll want to get fixed?? A REP!!!!
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That is not what you said. And I quote: "here in Australia no one knows anything about watches and there are no real watch repair guys apart from changing the strap and batteries!!!!" No mention of reps at all just a general statement so I maintain it was erroneous and insulting.
Why would any half decent watchmaker want to work on reps? You can't get the parts, the movements are fragile, there are no schematics available and it's a bloody nightmare. I don't even like working on my own examples. The only ones who will either have an interest in reps or need the work badly enough. However if it has a gen ETA or a 6497 of some kind it won't be as hard. Just let 'em know it's one of the above and not some unrepairable Chinese POS.
And yes I am aware it's a rep forum, I run it!
Why would any half decent watchmaker want to work on reps? You can't get the parts, the movements are fragile, there are no schematics available and it's a bloody nightmare. I don't even like working on my own examples. The only ones who will either have an interest in reps or need the work badly enough. However if it has a gen ETA or a 6497 of some kind it won't be as hard. Just let 'em know it's one of the above and not some unrepairable Chinese POS.
And yes I am aware it's a rep forum, I run it!
Very disappointed with Kuvarsit. ME PAM 312 V2 NOT WORKING. No response to em...
Yes I was under the impression you were going by my the original post I made about the new rep 312 not working. So I kept it regarding that. I can see, however if you just take my words out of that context, it means that Australia doesn't have any good watch makers. Even I don't agree with that. In fact a couple of years ago a girl won the best watchmaker of the year in the world award and she is a Aussie.
All they posts were relating to the issue of KW PAM 312. ALE said it's an easy fix after I posted a picture of my movement, but I said no one knows anything about fixing watches here (rep watches)
I have tried talking to a few watch guys here even told them that these are high quality reps and I will not hold them accountable even if they ruin the watch, but just try to fix them. They are still hesitant. I think only if you have known a guy for years would they fix a rep. This is my personal opinion.
Yes I know you are big boss and owner of this forum. I think also this is best forum of all rep forums. It's surprising that it's an Aussie forum but it's hardest to get mods fixes done in Australia.
Yes I was under the impression you were going by my the original post I made about the new rep 312 not working. So I kept it regarding that. I can see, however if you just take my words out of that context, it means that Australia doesn't have any good watch makers. Even I don't agree with that. In fact a couple of years ago a girl won the best watchmaker of the year in the world award and she is a Aussie.
All they posts were relating to the issue of KW PAM 312. ALE said it's an easy fix after I posted a picture of my movement, but I said no one knows anything about fixing watches here (rep watches)
I have tried talking to a few watch guys here even told them that these are high quality reps and I will not hold them accountable even if they ruin the watch, but just try to fix them. They are still hesitant. I think only if you have known a guy for years would they fix a rep. This is my personal opinion.
Yes I know you are big boss and owner of this forum. I think also this is best forum of all rep forums. It's surprising that it's an Aussie forum but it's hardest to get mods fixes done in Australia.
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Yep, Kurvasit Watch = KW
If you look at the first line of the menu to the left of their landing page, you'll see "KW PRODUCTS" before ?watch brands/models.. KW is a factory and kurvasitwatch.com is their e-Commerce website.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS NOT ONE OF OUR TRUSTED DEALERS. While there is nothing wrong with that site, you should stick to the ones under the dealers section. Not to mention, our TDs often have better prices than KW's recommended prices.
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+1 I agree with trailboss
Reading previous tb comments I understand his indignation and outrage
He is completely right !
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Oh yes of course. Why would i say there are no watch smiths here. There is almost every brand watch available in Australia and corresponding watch repair guys for the gens.
But it's just that no one ventures into the hobby of reps. And by no one I mean watch makers who also like reps
But it's just that no one ventures into the hobby of reps. And by no one I mean watch makers who also like reps
Australia rep friendly watchmaker thread:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/90091-Australian-watchmaker-rep-friendly!
A long thread, didnt read it fully.
https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/90091-Australian-watchmaker-rep-friendly!
A long thread, didnt read it fully.
I love my reps but at the end of the day they are a fake watch that may last a day or they may last a lifetime....you know that going in.
I do think its wrong that the TD has avoided emails if thats the case, but you can't expect any sort of warranty on counterfeit goods.
Thats not to say you shouldn't be annoyed - but thats they game we're in.
I do think its wrong that the TD has avoided emails if thats the case, but you can't expect any sort of warranty on counterfeit goods.
Thats not to say you shouldn't be annoyed - but thats they game we're in.
I agree with you but also disagree a Little bit.
We have made this rep watch a serious hobby. The prices we pay for these watches warrant that a buyer be taken seriously when something goes wrong. Especially when the watch was broken at the first time when it was sent.
You and I both know that reps don't break down that easily if you get a good piece and then all they need is a service. And that's why this game has been going on for so long. If this was a Russian roulette the rep game would not have been a serious business.
What I don't understand is on the one hand these watches are marketed as strong 1:1 copy with top quality parts etc. And on the other hand we say they are just reps don't take them too seriously!! Well if you charge me$30 for a rep I won't worry too Much. But you charge top dollars for watches and when something goes wrong they say it's just a rep don't worry and let your money go down the drain
We have made this rep watch a serious hobby. The prices we pay for these watches warrant that a buyer be taken seriously when something goes wrong. Especially when the watch was broken at the first time when it was sent.
You and I both know that reps don't break down that easily if you get a good piece and then all they need is a service. And that's why this game has been going on for so long. If this was a Russian roulette the rep game would not have been a serious business.
What I don't understand is on the one hand these watches are marketed as strong 1:1 copy with top quality parts etc. And on the other hand we say they are just reps don't take them too seriously!! Well if you charge me$30 for a rep I won't worry too Much. But you charge top dollars for watches and when something goes wrong they say it's just a rep don't worry and let your money go down the drain
Dude, please stop whining already and being such a victim. You pay $300 for a watch that would be $7k+ as a gen, this is a gamble many people are willing to take, and it is why the rep biz exists. They don't come with warranties because they are illegal. If you need a warranty, but a steinhart or helson or something. You assume and presuppose too much...mainly that reps are a legit business. The whole game works pretty well, especially here where we have almost all the info and are somewhat protected by the community.