Vacheron Constantin Overseas Tourbillon 6000V from 8F

[pistebasher]

After their reasonable attempts at the 5500V, 8F has released the tourbillon Overseas. There was a V1 but it was offensively thick. This one at 12 mm is still thicker than gen (10.4mm) but is far more palatable. The decoration plate is also looking better than the frankly terrible one in the 5500V.

https://biao6688.com/69564.html

And some photos (well, renders) of the genuine article

 

[EunosMX5]

I would be interested in this depending on how the dial stacks up as their blue dials are notoriously hard to replicate. If only it was 11mm or so, wonder if case can be shaved at all. Looks promising though!

 

[myvacheron972]

Does their rubber bracelet is compatible with 2000v of xf factory ?

 

[pistebasher]

Does their rubber bracelet is compatible with 2000v of xf factory ?

Not sure, although if it is of gen size, it will fit. I have a gen vacheron strap on my 2000V XF

 

[Stuart Pitt]

Impressive, dial and side view almost looks genuine.
Much better than chunky previous attempts.
8F V1;
https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=21278
EURF;
https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=22422

 

[Stuart Pitt]

In my opinion this unintentionally corrects a design flaw with the genuine.
Hour markers at 5 and 7 are not there because of the larger diameter tourbillon window.
Those markers on the genuine are wider than the minutes and lumed, but not three dimensional, and therefore look out of place.

 

[myvacheron972]

Does their rubber bracelet is compatible with 2000v of xf factory ?

thank you for your answer ?

did you get the watch without the buckle ? if yes can you send a link please
i'll will buy the original strap but i'm afraid to find without the buckle thank

 

[zenmaster]

In my opinion this unintentionally corrects a design flaw with the genuine.
Hour markers at 5 and 7 are not there because of the larger diameter tourbillon window.
Those markers on the genuine are wider than the minutes and lumed, but not three dimensional, and therefore look out of place.

Wow... they make this rep so easy to spot. Thank you. You just ruined this watch for me.

 

[Stuart Pitt]

Got my bracelet version from Sead yesterday.
I'm really happy with it, was expecting the tourbillon to be loud like in the EUR RM027, but it's very quiet and can only hear it pressed to your ear.
Can't upload attachments in this channel, but it's 11.86mm thick.

 

[Stuart Pitt]

Power reserve is at least 61:47.
I say at least because I wound it 120 turns waiting for it to get harder to turn and stop like the EUR RM 027, but found after the test that it has a clutch that slips after about 40 turns.
So I'm not sure how many turns past the slip that actually was, and assume the slip lets the main spring relax a little.
Winding it today I went 40, heard the slip, went another 8 to another slip, then went another 7.

The tourbillon is smaller and possibly a modification of the one used in the JBF RM001 (~87 hour power reserve), with the three spoke balance wheel rim weights consolidated into a sliding weight on two of the now four spokes.

It doesn't have the two 2.3mm pull outs in the bracelet like the X V2000, and the latch part of the bracelet isn't interchangeable, but may be able to made to fit by filing if the holes line up.

 

[Stuart Pitt]

What I thought was clutch slip was just the main spring settling.
The watch winds a maximum of 160 turns, and has a power reserve of 83 hours when wound 140 times, but it looses accuracy as it unwinds.
I'll wind it to maximum at the same time each day, and it should loose less than a minute each month.

Was wrong about the bracelet pull outs, had to spread the link sides out slightly and oil the sliding part to get them to function.

20211105:15:20: wound 120
20211108:05:07: stopped (61:47)
20211108:07:45: wound 57
20211109:23:58: stopped (40:13)
20211110:11:45: wound ?
20211113:01:38: stopped (61:53)
20211113:08:00: wound 120 (set 43 seconds fast to align with tourbillon)
20211114:10:00: 36 seconds fast (7 seconds slow)
20211115:08:00: 37 seconds fast (6 seconds slow)
20211115:19:37: stopped (59:37)
20211116:00:00: wound 140 (set 13 seconds fast to align with tourbillon)
20211116:08:00: 13 seconds fast (0)
20211116:16:00: 12 seconds fast (1 second slow)
20211117:00:00: ? seconds fast (? seconds slow)
20211117:08:00: 7 seconds fast (6 seconds slow)
20211117:16:00: 5 seconds fast (8 seconds slow)
20211118:00:00: 3 seconds fast (10 seconds slow)
20211118:08:00: 2 seconds fast (11 seconds slow)
20211118:16:00: 3 seconds fast (10 seconds slow)
20211119:00:00: ? seconds fast (? seconds slow)
20211119:08:00: 25 seconds slow (38 seconds slow)
20211119:11:07: stopped (83:07)
20211119:14:10: wound 160 (set 1.5 seconds slow to align with tourbillon)

 

[Swiss_goupil]

Would love some pictures of the rep outside a photoboot to check the blue colour of the dial. The difference on the pictures above is immense

Anyway I know you will never cross the path of a gen, but the rep seems to have a purple tone which I am not too keen on


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[Swiss_goupil]

Got my bracelet version from Sead yesterday.
I'm really happy with it, was expecting the tourbillon to be loud like in the EUR RM027, but it's very quiet and can only hear it pressed to your ear.
Can't upload attachments in this channel, but it's 11.86mm thick.

Could you post some picture brother?


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[Stuart Pitt]

Weird, I can upload pictures now.
Here's one from when I received it, I'll take more when I get home;

Got my slow and fast mixed up in the previous post, here are the correct numbers.
If I wind it every three days and seven hours it will keep almost perfect time.

20211105:15:20: wound 120
20211108:05:07: stopped (61:47)
20211108:07:45: wound 57
20211109:23:58: stopped (40:13)
20211110:11:45: wound ?
20211113:01:38: stopped (61:53)
20211113:08:00: wound 120 (set 17 seconds slow to align with tourbillon)
20211114:10:00: 10 seconds slow (7 seconds fast)
20211115:08:00: 11 seconds slow (6 seconds fast)
20211115:19:37: stopped (59:37)
20211116:00:00: wound 140 (set 13 seconds fast to align with tourbillon)
20211116:08:00: 13 seconds fast (0)
20211116:16:00: 14 seconds fast (1 second fast)
20211117:08:00: 19 seconds fast (6 seconds fast)
20211117:16:00: 18 seconds fast (8 seconds fast)
20211118:00:00: 23 seconds fast (10 seconds fast)
20211118:08:00: 24 seconds fast (11 seconds fast)
20211118:16:00: 23 seconds fast (10 seconds fast)
20211119:08:00: 25 seconds slow (38 seconds slow)
20211119:11:07: stopped (83:07)
20211119:14:10: wound 160 (set 1 second slow to align with tourbillon)
20211120:06:00: 1 second fast (2 seconds fast)
20211120:14:00: 1 second fast (2 seconds fast)
20211121:06:00: 4 seconds fast (5 seconds fast)
20211121:14:00: 6 seconds fast (7 seconds fast)
20211122:06:00: 9 seconds fast (10 seconds fast)
20211122:14:00: 8 seconds fast (9 seconds fast)
20211122:18:00: 4 seconds fast (5 seconds fast)
20211122:20:10: 3 seconds fast (4 seconds fast)
20211122:22:00: 2 seconds slow (1 second slow) <- 3 days, 8 hours
20211123:04:10: stopped (91:00)
20211123:08:00: wound 10 times, waited for sync, shook to start, wound to full (set 0 to align with tourbillon)
20211126:15:00: wind at 3 days, 7 hours

 

[Swiss_goupil]

You are such a tease lol


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[Swiss_goupil]

While we are waiting for Stuart’s pictures, here is the gen

That blue….


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[pistebasher]

Different watch, but as the 4500V thread is ancient, this is still likely interesting here. Is it just me or is this relatively cheap rep from 3AF the closest to gen VC blue? The BP rep has a much better datewheel and case but the blue dial it has is nothing like gen.

https://www.intime06.co/vach-consta...dial-on-ss-bracelet-miyota-9015-to-a5100.html



This one on the other hand looks pretty darned good.

 

[mech500]

^yeh that DW’s got DHgate vibes tho


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[pistebasher]

^yeh that DW’s got DHgate vibes tho


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Agreed, the DW is an abomination

 

[Stuart Pitt]

The blue dial doesn't have that thick porcelain enamel look I think I see with VC's blue dials, but it's very good.
Here are a few pictures.