I ordered five on March 4th and haven't received them yet. Wondering if I'll be getting a seizure letter. Freakin' socialists workers party that my taxes are paying for sitting around "monitoring" our ports and playing hide the greased up doorknob.
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US Customs seizure and nastygram from Rolex attorneys...
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I had 4 seized one time....got the nasty gram from customs and got the letter from Rolex.
I responded back to Rolex and let them know i didnt order any watches that were Rolex...i ordered Casio's and they need to stop harassing me.
Right on, but the customs goons wouldn't want to knock on your door, less they want to be met at the door by man with a kimber in his hand singing the perfect country and western song......
WTF, the US can't even keep illegals out of the country and they're going to waste time helping Rolex when it comes to counterfeit watches? Letting terrorists go from Guantanamo and someone is going to care if you have a watch made in China? I don't think so. The threat isn't worth the paper it's printed on. If OJ can get away with it so can we! Ignore it and carry on my wayward son....
You live in Miami man, you can get a PO Box without an ID in so many places.....why not be safe.
This is the best advice. Lawyers thrive on intimidation. I wouldnt give it a second thought. But definitely do not give any information, it sounds like a fishing expedition as this poster has stated. They probably thought you were a volume dealer and actually confused you for a guy just buying some watches for his personal collection.
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These come around like a bad penny
The money grubbing lawyers have sufficient 'ammunition' to allow them to generate a letter (translate: they can now raise more billable hours/expenses to darling Rolex).
Its all cause & effect...so far they have sufficient for a letter, (if they had more, wild horses wouldnt stop them in their pursuit of more billable hours/expenses - geddit) so can you think of anything that might add to their 'ammunition' to use???
Quite simply, theres only two things that could: a) further seizure to same name & address or b) some self inflicted usable information naively sent in response to their letter.
So
In future ship via a third party address, and IGNORE the letter
Or conversely just declare yourself to be a persecuted Muslim (they always let them do whatever the hell they like with impunity )
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The money grubbing lawyers have sufficient 'ammunition' to allow them to generate a letter (translate: they can now raise more billable hours/expenses to darling Rolex).
Its all cause & effect...so far they have sufficient for a letter, (if they had more, wild horses wouldnt stop them in their pursuit of more billable hours/expenses - geddit) so can you think of anything that might add to their 'ammunition' to use???
Quite simply, theres only two things that could: a) further seizure to same name & address or b) some self inflicted usable information naively sent in response to their letter.
So
In future ship via a third party address, and IGNORE the letter
Or conversely just declare yourself to be a persecuted Muslim (they always let them do whatever the hell they like with impunity
).
No sir. Lawyers may write letters but customs or ICE seize watches. Local cops (Houston and NYC) make raids on local rep venders. Wasted time and money.
Haha That's funny! I'm a member of the socialist workers party, seriously.
It sounds like we live in the same country, my friend! :headdesk:Or conversely just declare yourself to be a persecuted Muslim (they always let them do whatever the hell they like with impunity
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WTF, the US can't even keep illegals out of the country and they're going to waste time helping Rolex when it comes to counterfeit watches? Letting terrorists go from Guantanamo and someone is going to care if you have a watch made in China? I don't think so. The threat isn't worth the paper it's printed on. If OJ can get away with it so can we! Ignore it and carry on my wayward son....
Are you really comparing the insecurity at the borders with the illegal importation of know trademark infringing products?
I think you have missed a couple points... First, citizens bitch and complain about the insecure borders but then bitch and complain when the DHS asks for a huge budget increase.
We cant have it both ways... The US Border Patrol and Customs bureau does the very best that it can with what it has to work with.
Lets say we send up a flag that says... "We are no longer inspecting packages coming in to the country". Or even, " We are not inspecting packages coming from China..."
Then we have some nut case ships in some bio-weapons, or parts for a dirty bomb, or a nuke... then what? Then we all bitch because they didnt do their job.
The fact is every time we order a known trademark infringing product we open ourselves to the possible repercussions. I stopped importing replica's a little over a year ago. I will only buy from CONUS dealers or people. Im not suggesting we all do that... But its what I have done to eliminate the potential for my name to be associated with these issues.
Ever heard the old saying, "you do the crime, you do the time..." Well, if Rolex WANTS to go after you, they have every legal right to do it. Just like when the RIAA went after all the downloaders...
Interesting thread! I hope I didn't start a negative trend with my half-baked off color comments.
Yes as I said customs handle customs, your original post focused on "cops". Which, yes local police get involved in local raids but that was outside the scope of the original discussion which involved 1. U.S. customs and 2. a private attorney. The point of wasting local funds seeking local vendors is very true, but not germane to the discussion. Further the original discussion is referencing a civil forfeiture action not a criminal action.
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Just kidding buddy. I agree with you. I just use really bad jokes and humor when confronted with uncomfortable/threatening situations. If it gets really threatening, I drink, then make the jokes.
My wife told me I have to quit drinking... and i'm not very funny.
Haha Most of the shite I say is not so "germane".
What I was tryin to say is cops and Ice would rather do something other than seize fake watches.Actually, as I read the statutory authority just importing for personal use opens you to civil forfeiture and civil liability. It is when you get into trafficing (i.e. selling to another) where you move over into criminal liability. So actually buying or selling w/in the conus is the one to be afraid of. The only thing is it is less policed, as the package is not automatically going through an enforcement agencies hands.....
Well, I retract my previous "workers party" comment. They don't "work" as hard as I thought. My watches arrived today. And Doc, you just joined the party for the free "white power" coffee cup. You can go back to the libertarians now...Ron Paul and Jessie Ventura are having a pay per view wraslin match and you could still get tickets if'n u hurry. The Hustler knows I'm a little disapointed that I didn't get to shoot at any federal employees, but tax season ain't over yet! I'm a goin now to post some of these crappy pics I took in another section. With all those faulty marital aids coming from asia electrocuting all those adult film stars, you'd think customs would have their hands full. You know if they actually did seize a crate of sex toys they would probably be filling more than their hands....
Whatcha got here is what is known in the legal profession is a "Demand" letter. Your choices as Spa and all the others have mentioned is to ignore or reply. I suggest ignore. Ship one at a time to your buddy in NYC and be well.