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This Should Be Seen Here. I Think its Important

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hooligan

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The "cartel" trying to fix pricing or get exclusive supply of a certain watch doesn't bother me in the least. There isn't a rep out there that I can't live without, so if it's too pricey, I'll pass.

Misrepresenting what a watch is or is not made of is the MUCH bigger issue, IMHO. This thread started about misrepresentations, IIRC. The "cartel" aspect was a tangent.
 

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peepshow said:
The "cartel" trying to fix pricing or get exclusive supply of a certain watch doesn't bother me in the least. There isn't a rep out there that I can't live without, so if it's too pricey, I'll pass.

Misrepresenting what a watch is or is not made of is the MUCH bigger issue, IMHO. This thread started about misrepresentations, IIRC. The "cartel" aspect was a tangent.

those dealers can charge what ever their clientèle will pay, i don't care about that. they are stopping other dealers from getting them and that is crap. i am not going to pay 300.00 from them when i know i can get it from my dealer for 240.00 if she can get it. joshua told the factory not to let ruby have it because she wouldn't agree to over charge for it so she cannot get the steelfish. that is price fixing and i have a big problem with that. the steelfish is a 1,600.00 watch i will only pay up to 10% of the gen value for a rep and that is only if it is damn near perfect other wise i won't pay that. 300.00 is roughly 30% of the gen cost and i don't see the reasoning behind it other than greed. i will have no part of that.
 

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Guys, forgive me for not sharing this sooner. I don't know why I didn't, but it just dawned on me that this might be important to post in this thread.

A few months ago I opened the back of my vintage Cali dial Radiomir that I bought nearly a year ago from Joshua. It was advertised as having a Molnija movement. Much to my surprise, I found a Swiss 6497 in there! I emailed Joshua about it and his reply was that there were too many problems with the Molnijas and so his supplier switched to the Swiss 6497s. I told him I thought he should update the description on his website (I don't think he has).

This certainly doesn't undo all the other negative misrepresentations that were talked about in this thread. I just wanted to share the fact that the consumer doesn't lose out in EVERY case of incorrect information. Take from this what you will...
Despite the positive outcome for you, it is still "advertising one thing and sending something else."
 
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Capitalists have no time for truth.....it's bottom line every time....... 8)
 

hooligan

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olivia said:
Despite the positive outcome for you, it is still "advertising one thing and sending something else."

I agree, 100%. As I stated above, I would prefer a "no surprises" transaction every time. I just wanted to point out that it isn't always the consumer who loses in a case of misrepresentation. That's it.

HK -- Of course the "cartel" dealers are going to ask the manufacturer not to supply the watch to a dealer that is going to undersell them. I would do the exact same thing if I was in their position. The manufacturer is the one making the final decision, however. If the manufacturer is willing to acquiesce to that request and lose out on selling a few more watches through another dealer, that's their business choice.

Do I wish it were different? Sure.

This is really no different than Rolex not allowing ADs to sell their watches at a discount. I wish that was different too, but it's the reality of things.

Again, it's not ideal for the consumer, but there are lots of other commercial situations that are similar.

How about DeBeers buying up and warehousing diamonds to keep the supply low and artificially inflate the price of diamonds? I don't think that's ethical either, but that's life in the real world.

I'll save my pennies and buy a gen Steelfish.
 

daytona4me

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You may review a new policy adopted by RWI HERE in relation to dealers.

Comments on this policy should be made in that thread.

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dave123

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Uh,the policy link isn't working D.

Can we get that fixed?.... :lol:
 

bme

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Dave,

Naughty boy, bumping this thread.........no Kool Aids for you, now straight to bed tonight!
 

coop

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Wow, another blast from the past! Maybe we should all look up really old threads and bump them!
 

seank

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I just wanted to get some people to look at our favorite thread of all time.




Sean K
 

digi

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here are the economics.

jandrew take a watch to be repped to the factory, the factory does a nice job. The factory can distribute it to all dealers for their wholesale price, dealers compete on price, original supplier of the watch to be repped has a small window to recoup and profit from his so called investment.

I'm guessing this is the economics 101 lesson here.

Markets are never quite that fair, but I certainly applaud the courage the mod team showed to make it fair and right.

Sending the emails (whether true or not) certainly is in the interest of the gen watch supplier to the factory to lock in the profit stream for a set time.
 

JellyJoe

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This is an old thread, I have no insight about what happened in between. I just thought I'd bump to have new members read it, cos it was really interesting.
 

jvd45

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reading with interest seank and Jelly... had a hazy bg.. before this and I am a v new member
 
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