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The OFFICIAL RWI YACHTMASTER CLUB
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Mrpong
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For these two ARF blue dial, are they much different?
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=19458
SH3135, 316L, Same thickness as gen.
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=20461
A2824, 904L, Same thickness as gen.
How about reliability of both movements? Which one is easier for repairing or even franken?
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=19458
SH3135, 316L, Same thickness as gen.
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=20461
A2824, 904L, Same thickness as gen.
How about reliability of both movements? Which one is easier for repairing or even franken?
Its your desicion. Both are great and both have flaws. noob correct secondhand colour but arf the right size. noob better dial marker but arf better lume and printing. noob better bezel insert but arf better bracelet....(both inserts are crap ootb! a mod is necessary)
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srhoque
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There are 2 variants of platinum dial. The 5 digit vs the 6 digit. I would go with Noob 904L since for me thats a better reproduction of the shiny platinum dial. All you would need on the Noob is change seconds hand (dot is smaller than gen) and the TomRep Bezel PPM. Also the recent Noob bracelets coming out are amazing quality with perfect SEL and clasps open/close that are gen like. ARF bracelet is still overall better quality though, so the ideal is Noob+ARF hybrid. Good luck with your project!!
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Thanks a lot bro. Wich case is more gen like?
and why Noob insert is better then ARF?
After the mod both look the same, so dont worry. I heard noob but I have the arf and its perfect
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I have recently been coming to the opinion that the ARF insert is slightly better, and here's why (although I'm questioning my logic honestly): both inserts are wrong compared to gen. I can spot it almost immediately now. Compared to gen, ARF have fatter, more raised numerals. Noob's numerals are a bit thinner/less raised/less exaggerated.
Noob has typically been considered the better insert *I think* because they inherently draw less attention to the fact that they are incorrect, as where ARF are more "BAM! In your face!" Mind you, the newest ARF numerals on the 904l a2824 version seem more subdued- but still too pronounced.
So why do I think ARF may actually be better? Because they are both equally wrong, and ARF must have modeled their insert numerals based off of the previous generation 5 digit Yachtmaster- the 16622. If you compare, ARF did a pretty good job actually. So at least there is that as far as "gen-likeness."
So in my justification-seeking brain, I've ordered an ARF recently- I accepted that the numerals are wrong no matter what, but ARF has better bezel action (which I actually care about) and a better bracelet. I've also had the Noob so I'll let you guys know my initial impressions once I have it in hand.
As far as the case goes, I can't tell any difference at all between the newest versions. But srhoque seems to be the master yachtmaster fan here so I would defer to him on most things YM related haha. But wanted to give my opinion and logic on the insert because it goes against the status quo and figured it could be a good point of discussion. Ps, VRF might actually to have a better insert than Noob or ARF.
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srhoque
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This is a common forum, So everyone has an opinion and we all learn from it
I am glad you took the time to post and get everyone thinking over it...Regarding case, I only have Noob and I like it. I am sure ARF is equally good, no comments here.
Noob bezel click action is not up to my liking. Also ARF bracelet is better but if you are buying Noob case, use Noob SEL (they are perfect)
Regarding Bezel/Insert - Here is a pic comparing my Gen with Noob and ARF. My vote is Noob (because of font accuracy and similar thickness and thats the only one i own) but please form your own opinion. In the end only you have to live with the consequences of your decision
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This is a common forum, So everyone has an opinion and we all learn from it
Regarding case, I only have Noob and I like it. I am sure ARF is equally good, no comments here.
Noob bezel click action is not up to my liking. Also ARF bracelet is better but if you are buying Noob case, use Noob SEL (they are perfect)
Regarding Bezel/Insert - Here is a pic comparing my Gen with Noob and ARF. My vote is Noob (because of font accuracy and similar thickness and thats the only one i own) but please form your own opinion. In the end only you have to live with the consequences of your decision
Well all I have to go off of is pictures really. And it appears there are some variations in gen maybe too? But here is a pic just doing a quick search on Chrono24
It appears to split the difference between ARF and Noob in terms of how pronounced the numerals are. Honestly, we can look at so many pictures that we gain a very accurate perspective in some senses, while actually losing general perspective lol. All I know is that obsessing over details in order to build my own franken, and looking at pictures upon pictures upon pictures, I can now nearly always distinguish rather quickly between Noob, ARF, and Gen.
srhoque
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Well, you bring up a good perspective. Something to consider is whether the bezel/insert is the 5 digit model or 6 digit one (and whether it is the 1166xx or 1266xx version). Having the 5 digit gen in hand, I can assure you that the numbers are not that much raised as in the Chrono24 pic. In fact the Noob insert has the right level of font thickness and elevation. I have never seen or held the newer 6 digit bezel/insert, maybe that's what the chrono24 pics shows and maybe that what ARF replicates.
Edit - BTW, I should have mentioned, after TomRep PPM, these inserts go to the next level. When Tom sand blasts the insert surfaces, the numbers take on a mirrored finish and they look a bit more raised/elevated. Atleast that's the case with my 2 inserts that he has modded
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Mrpong
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yeah I'm considering buying a gen so I've been looking around a bit more lately. I do have a feeling there are some variations in inserts over the years. But especially from the 5 digit to the 6 digit. 5 digits were fatter, but maybe not raised as much.
In any case, my ARF was shipped on the 9th. Will update when I have it in hand.