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The Iwc Aquatimer Chronograph Cousteau Divers
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lolex said:
Would probably have to say the 3717, which is a nice watch too. Albeit a little overpriced too, but when compared to the Custeau Divers, it seems a lot more reasonable. The quality on the 3717 is not bad, the only thing that you really do have to look for is crooked hour markers, and day/date wheel.
No, it's just that my account has been reinstated so my 6000 posts all count as having happened in the last ten days.lolex said:PUG..I just noticed..your post per day is 600 plus!!! ??? No way....you gotto be kidding
I'm on 20/day usually.
Just my 2 cents after looking at dealers' pictures of this watch... I tend to agree that 388 for Asian is pretty out of range and the price difference between Asian and ETA movement is too large, making ETA7750 version of this watch to be a worst buy. ETA7750 movement is not as difficult to obtain as ETA7753.
I don't doubt that it's really sweet. I would echo some of the earlier comments about the price difference between the asian and the swiss.
The difference seems to suggest that the asian counts for 'nothing' towards the value of the watch- which is quite possible- but I don't see how it would be so much harder to install a swiss instead of the asian from the start. If you were going to do 100 swiss for this watch, you'd pay, what? $200 US max for the 7750?
Maybe it doesn't work like this, and the dealers have to actually physically swap out the asian movements themselves.
But otherwise, I think the dealers/factory potentially are under appreciating the sensitivity discriminating customers have towards these asian chrono movements. If the new asian 7750 had a couple of years under it's belt, or it had the type of backing review that the new 2824 'copy' has- then I could maybe understand the premium on the super-rep.
I am going to predict that this one is going to end up like the Evo, rather than the Big Bang.
I think that the secondary dealers are going to get a hold of it a couple of months from now, and I think it's actual value is going to decrease...even though I don't expect it will be as widely produced as the Evo.
I think that the factory might've made a mistake on this one- but we'll see.
The difference seems to suggest that the asian counts for 'nothing' towards the value of the watch- which is quite possible- but I don't see how it would be so much harder to install a swiss instead of the asian from the start. If you were going to do 100 swiss for this watch, you'd pay, what? $200 US max for the 7750?
Maybe it doesn't work like this, and the dealers have to actually physically swap out the asian movements themselves.
But otherwise, I think the dealers/factory potentially are under appreciating the sensitivity discriminating customers have towards these asian chrono movements. If the new asian 7750 had a couple of years under it's belt, or it had the type of backing review that the new 2824 'copy' has- then I could maybe understand the premium on the super-rep.
I am going to predict that this one is going to end up like the Evo, rather than the Big Bang.
I think that the secondary dealers are going to get a hold of it a couple of months from now, and I think it's actual value is going to decrease...even though I don't expect it will be as widely produced as the Evo.
I think that the factory might've made a mistake on this one- but we'll see.
The bottom line; if you are an IWC rep collector... this watch is certainly a must, no matter the price. Go for Asian!
it is priced that way because they are gonna sell 100 asians for every 1 swiss; and they jack the price on the swiss to make the asian 7750 seem affordable.
Well, I will go for a serviced asian, when all is said and done.
I believe some dealers offer pre-servicing of the 7750 movement for $150, is this correct?
Was Josh's even as cheap as $120? Probably not...because usually they scale things up, so that a pam is not as expensive to get serviced as a chrono.
I would go $450 for a serviced asian. Unless someone wants to get one and have it serviced, and trade me for my mint old-style Breitling Chrono Avenger Ti, with bracelet as well as brand new genuine strap?
I agree, if you're an IWC fan...this is a must have. I just don't think there are a ton of huge IWC fans. I do think there are a lot of super-rep fans, though. I'm one of them. But I find in this territory, you have to be selective.
For example, I think the SS HBB is actually a reasonably decent value. The asian uPO is maybe the best value of any of the super reps, even though I don't consider it a super rep. I think the Evo is probably a good value, too.
The superocean, this IWC...I'm not so sold on, as far as their value. Even within the Big Bang family, I'm not sure that the newer ceramic ones are worth it.
Everyone has their own judgment and preferences...
I guess this is sort of like being graphics card junkies, more and more. Or maybe just computer upgraders. It's the only thing in my personal history I can relate it to. I got no problem waiting a few months- if this is the type of business model that is either innate or taking over the rep game.
Get an Inge on the used forum and get it AR coated if you want an ETA super rep that isn't overpriced. $250 US tops, start to finish. Not a Breitling whose genuine goes for around a grand used, anyways- and whose AR is supposedly suspect, and whose price is supposedly artificially high.
I believe some dealers offer pre-servicing of the 7750 movement for $150, is this correct?
Was Josh's even as cheap as $120? Probably not...because usually they scale things up, so that a pam is not as expensive to get serviced as a chrono.
I would go $450 for a serviced asian. Unless someone wants to get one and have it serviced, and trade me for my mint old-style Breitling Chrono Avenger Ti, with bracelet as well as brand new genuine strap?
I agree, if you're an IWC fan...this is a must have. I just don't think there are a ton of huge IWC fans. I do think there are a lot of super-rep fans, though. I'm one of them. But I find in this territory, you have to be selective.
For example, I think the SS HBB is actually a reasonably decent value. The asian uPO is maybe the best value of any of the super reps, even though I don't consider it a super rep. I think the Evo is probably a good value, too.
The superocean, this IWC...I'm not so sold on, as far as their value. Even within the Big Bang family, I'm not sure that the newer ceramic ones are worth it.
Everyone has their own judgment and preferences...
I guess this is sort of like being graphics card junkies, more and more. Or maybe just computer upgraders. It's the only thing in my personal history I can relate it to. I got no problem waiting a few months- if this is the type of business model that is either innate or taking over the rep game.
Get an Inge on the used forum and get it AR coated if you want an ETA super rep that isn't overpriced. $250 US tops, start to finish. Not a Breitling whose genuine goes for around a grand used, anyways- and whose AR is supposedly suspect, and whose price is supposedly artificially high.
fletch512
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Wow, such diverse opinions about this watch. I am amazed, though, that people can heap so much praise on this rep before anyone has even had the chance to purchase it. I wait for unbiased reviews before even buying a $200 rep, and I make a pretty decent income. I guess there must be some really rich rep collectors out there.
I agree with mezzanine, there are some recent reps where the dealers have definitely overextended on the price to value ratio. I still think even the HBB is overpriced for an asian 7750, but it's an amazingly detailed reproduction so I kind of understand the allure. However, the cousteau just doesn't do it for me at this price point. Maybe I'll change my mind once the reviews come in (from someone I trust). A hefty drop in price might also change my mind (hint, hint...).
I agree with mezzanine, there are some recent reps where the dealers have definitely overextended on the price to value ratio. I still think even the HBB is overpriced for an asian 7750, but it's an amazingly detailed reproduction so I kind of understand the allure. However, the cousteau just doesn't do it for me at this price point. Maybe I'll change my mind once the reviews come in (from someone I trust). A hefty drop in price might also change my mind (hint, hint...).
I would buy this just because I'm a IWC collector. I'm just waiting for early pix and reviews...
$388 sounds OK to me. The HBB price hasn't dropped much yet, and its been out for quite a few months.
$388 sounds OK to me. The HBB price hasn't dropped much yet, and its been out for quite a few months.
Honestly, I don't imagine the price dropping much because of the limited availability of this watch...
zetterdawg said:I can't believe these new reps are forcing me to buy genuines
Perhaps that's the plan. :twisted:
Well, as takashi says, this rep is a must (at least for an IWC fan like me).
The rep (seen the photos) is increible in detail. And in a not so easy watch, at least it is difficult to find something wrong.
It comes with two now things: the inner rotating (so the crono reset button making two functionalities) and a different and especial back.
the rep seems to come with a very decent two side AR.
I really do no mind the lume. I am not gona fish to 50 meter with this watch, and if I am with a girl in a dark room, I hope see do not look the watch
There is people that pays this money for a Davidsen PAM.
Is the 7750 realliable? well, not the most, but I can two, for more than 6 months an no problems. It something than is a mix between luck and not playing bad with the cronos. I would like to know how many people ruined its 7750 watch.
I was waiting for this watch for looong (I must say that I am a core IWC fan).
I have buyed no rep this year (fluuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh), so I do not consider it expensive. I prefer have one rep that I know I will love, that two, that I like, but in four/five month will sleep in the box. It is my own way.
Lets see what is coming.
Ah!!!!: next rep: New Ingy mit ceramic!
The rep (seen the photos) is increible in detail. And in a not so easy watch, at least it is difficult to find something wrong.
It comes with two now things: the inner rotating (so the crono reset button making two functionalities) and a different and especial back.
the rep seems to come with a very decent two side AR.
I really do no mind the lume. I am not gona fish to 50 meter with this watch, and if I am with a girl in a dark room, I hope see do not look the watch
There is people that pays this money for a Davidsen PAM.
Is the 7750 realliable? well, not the most, but I can two, for more than 6 months an no problems. It something than is a mix between luck and not playing bad with the cronos. I would like to know how many people ruined its 7750 watch.
I was waiting for this watch for looong (I must say that I am a core IWC fan).
I have buyed no rep this year (fluuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh), so I do not consider it expensive. I prefer have one rep that I know I will love, that two, that I like, but in four/five month will sleep in the box. It is my own way.
Lets see what is coming.
Ah!!!!: next rep: New Ingy mit ceramic!
I am in agreement with many opinions that are being seen this way. An replica of a watch cannot cost more than 200 - 250 $. Perhaps they give to a total guarantee of two years by any failure or failure us? No. The time of guarantee is brief and in addition you must send the watch with expenses to your position, when if purchases one original you take it to repair to the technical service of the mark and without additional cost.
But the fault we have those we bought to these prices. I, of course to more of the prices than have commented I do not think to buy no very good or exact replica more by that she is (that we do not know it with certainty, in addition).
A greeting to all.
But the fault we have those we bought to these prices. I, of course to more of the prices than have commented I do not think to buy no very good or exact replica more by that she is (that we do not know it with certainty, in addition).
A greeting to all.