The AP questions thread (All the questions you want to ask about AP but were afraid to)

[legend]

IFIFY

Lol, thanks man. Word.

 

[Stuzzy]

Caseback series on a rep does not matter, it’s arbitrary as you know. I would say a v7 or v9 going by the datewheel. Whichever one it is before the datewheel font was updated to the horrible over-serifed font. The watch just needs the datewheel and dive bezel updated to the v10 or whatever they have now and it’ll be good visually.

Thank you!!

 

[DJFinder]

Anything to look out for when receiving QC on a Royal Oak 15500? Thanks

 

[legend]

Anything to look out for when receiving QC on a Royal Oak 15500? Thanks

Dial marker and logo alignment, dial print, bezel midcase caseback alignment, clasp logo alignment

 

[joeyc]

Ass Pain ?

Anal pain caused by being called out

 

[DJFinder]

Dial marker and logo alignment, dial print, bezel midcase caseback alignment, clasp logo alignment

Thank you. Did I read somewhere there was a few that were coming out with ‘Jewels’ spelt incorrectly? Thanks

 

[legend]

Thank you. Did I read somewhere there was a few that were coming out with ‘Jewels’ spelt incorrectly? Thanks

I believe that the misspelling issue has been resolved a long time ago.

 

[DJFinder]

Is a 1.4mm screwdriver needed to remove the links?

Also could be a silly question but as the bracelet is tapered, are the links closest to the clasp removed first when resizing?

Do an equal amount of links have to be taken out on each side?

Thanks

 

[grillbrill]

Is a 1.4mm screwdriver needed to remove the links?

Also could be a silly question but as the bracelet is tapered, are the links closest to the clasp removed first when resizing?

Do an equal amount of links have to be taken out on each side?

Thanks

Which model?

 

[DJFinder]

Which model?

15500

 

[AAH1483]

My question is who and where do we go to contact someone who can perform mods and or service 7750's on the Offshores ? Can someone or anyone post or create a section for this? Oascom and Watchknob are out of the question on 7750's. Like myself I'm new to AP's and many of us here come across reading and seeing pictures of mods being done and don't have a clue on who to ask because they are afraid of being flamed.

 

[AAH1483]

If asked ? Yes I've already checked the Tech and Supporting Vendors section.

 

[Procurator]

Well the A7750s are not really worth servicing. Not really moddable movement either. The best route is to go LWO283 for ROOs, which also has the correct beat rate.
The movement investment will pay for itself in about 2-3 years, when most asian 7750s fail. Ive had multiple of them crap themselves within 6 months.

 

[AAH1483]

Well the A7750s are not really worth servicing. Not really moddable movement either. The best route is to go LWO283 for ROOs, which also has the correct beat rate.
The movement investment will pay for itself in about 2-3 years, when most asian 7750s fail. Ive had multiple of them crap themselves within 6 months.

Is the LWO283 a movement that can replace the Asian 7750? Will the caseback need to be modified to fit this?

 

[legend]

Well the A7750s are not really worth servicing. Not really moddable movement either. The best route is to go LWO283 for ROOs, which also has the correct beat rate.
The movement investment will pay for itself in about 2-3 years, when most asian 7750s fail. Ive had multiple of them crap themselves within 6 months.

The LWO283 (essentially the ETA2892 movement), like the 7750, beats at 28800bph). The 3126/3840 movement beats at 21600bph. The cal.4404 for the 26238 ROOs beat at 28800bph.

Converting a replica ROO to take the LWO283
movement basically necessitates a lot of casework being done, and a gen dial is highly recommended. That is the bare minimum work and usually more stuff like gen hands, tachy and a thinner caseback is added.

I agree with you that it’s the best movement currently for the 26470, 26170 and 44mm ROOs running the seconds@12. The 7750 sec@12 movement can never be made reliable @AAH1483 even after a service. It is a matter of when and not if, for the movement to give out eventually. I need to add that because of the modular stacked structure, LWO283 movement itself isn’t the best when it comes to reliability. Like the gen 3126/3840 caliber, it is prone to chrono start/stop and chrono hand reset issues which can sometimes interfere with timekeeping and power reserve issues too.

AP has done a great job shifting the seconds subdial and hand to the 6 o’clock position and introducing the integrated flyback chrono function for the cal.4404 for the new ROOs IMHO. I hope that the rep makers can catch up on these newer ROOs soon. Yes the sec@6 7750 movement can be done to emulate the sec@6 for the 26238 ROOs. Reliability will be as atrocious as the sec@12.

 

[AAH1483]

The LWO283 (essentially the ETA2892 movement), like the 7750, beats at 28800bph). The 3126/3840 movement beats at 21600bph. The cal.4404 for the 26238 ROOs beat at 28800bph.

Converting a replica ROO to take the LWO283
movement basically necessitates a lot of casework being done, and a gen dial is highly recommended. That is the bare minimum work and usually more stuff like gen hands, tachy and a thinner caseback is added.

I agree with you that it’s the best movement currently for the 26470, 26170 and 44mm ROOs running the seconds@12. The 7750 sec@12 movement can never be made reliable @AAH1483 even after a service. It is a matter of when and not if, for the movement to give out eventually. I need to add that because of the modular stacked structure, LWO283 movement itself isn’t the best when it comes to reliability. Like the gen 3126/3840 caliber, it is prone to chrono start/stop and chrono hand reset issues which can sometimes interfere with timekeeping and power reserve issues too.

AP has done a great job shifting the seconds subdial and hand to the 6 o’clock position and introducing the integrated flyback chrono function for the cal.4404 for the new ROOs IMHO. I hope that the rep makers can catch up on these newer ROOs soon. Yes the sec@6 7750 movement can be done to emulate the sec@6 for the 26238 ROOs. Reliability will be as atrocious as the sec@12.

Hi @legend . If I’m not mistaken you kinda touched on that awhile back during a conversation we had about the two AP’s I currently have which is the Panda , and The Beast offshore in which you said there isn't any much that I can do with these as far as modifications. I enjoy them as is but it would be fun to do a slight franken but at some point I get a little disappointed because the 7750 movement in any rep is not reliable and eventually go and no one to service them.

 

[AAH1483]

Hi @legend . If I’m not mistaken you kinda touched on that awhile back during a conversation we had about the two AP’s I currently have which is the Panda , and The Beast offshore in which you said there isn't any much that I can do with these as far as modifications. I enjoy them as is but it would be fun to do a slight franken but at some point I get a little disappointed because the 7750 movement in any rep is not reliable and eventually go and no one to service them.

I'm sort of leaning on putting them both on the chopping block .

 

[Procurator]

The LWO283 (essentially the ETA2892 movement), like the 7750, beats at 28800bph). The 3126/3840 movement beats at 21600bph. The cal.4404 for the 26238 ROOs beat at 28800bph.

Converting a replica ROO to take the LWO283
movement basically necessitates a lot of casework being done, and a gen dial is highly recommended. That is the bare minimum work and usually more stuff like gen hands, tachy and a thinner caseback is added.

I agree with you that it’s the best movement currently for the 26470, 26170 and 44mm ROOs running the seconds@12. The 7750 sec@12 movement can never be made reliable @AAH1483 even after a service. It is a matter of when and not if, for the movement to give out eventually. I need to add that because of the modular stacked structure, LWO283 movement itself isn’t the best when it comes to reliability. Like the gen 3126/3840 caliber, it is prone to chrono start/stop and chrono hand reset issues which can sometimes interfere with timekeeping and power reserve issues too.

AP has done a great job shifting the seconds subdial and hand to the 6 o’clock position and introducing the integrated flyback chrono function for the cal.4404 for the new ROOs IMHO. I hope that the rep makers can catch up on these newer ROOs soon. Yes the sec@6 7750 movement can be done to emulate the sec@6 for the 26238 ROOs. Reliability will be as atrocious as the sec@12.

Oh yeah, sorry about the beat rate, got my wires crossed with the low beat ETA conversion.
Although I have this memory of seeing a low beat chrono conversion for the ROO, some years ago, but I cant remember what it was.

 

[legend]

Hi @legend . If I’m not mistaken you kinda touched on that awhile back during a conversation we had about the two AP’s I currently have which is the Panda , and The Beast offshore in which you said there isn't any much that I can do with these as far as modifications. I enjoy them as is but it would be fun to do a slight franken but at some point I get a little disappointed because the 7750 movement in any rep is not reliable and eventually go and no one to service them.

Well if you’re expecting that after they are serviced and even with Swiss mainsprings fitted, they start running with Swiss reliability, you’ll be disappointed eventually. No watchmaker in the world can make the 7750 sec@12 movement reliable like the ETA2824, sadly.
For ROOs, there isn’t really such thing as a “slight” franken. You cannot just pop in the gen dial without at least an LWO283 movement due to the date window alignment and you cannot put in the LWO283 without first having do a lot of work on the case to accept the movement and the new crown position.
So if you want a respectable franken (and of course you do), then there is the standard suite of work to do.
On the flip side, there are many members here who have their unserviced 7750 sec@12 ROOs running for years. It’s just unpredictable when the movement will give out.

 

[legend]

Oh yeah, sorry about the beat rate, got my wires crossed with the low beat ETA conversion.
Although I have this memory of seeing a low beat chrono conversion for the ROO, some years ago, but I cant remember what it was.

The clone 3120 movement can be stacked with the dd module to serve as the caliber for the franken ROOs. That one is beating at 21600bph.