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Terrible experience with Puretime

Ciscoken

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I ordered 3 watches and boxes. They shipped 3 boxes that were beat up after they sent me QC pictures. Only one watch was shipped and two watches missin. They told me to take it up with the local shipper. They never sent the watches. The one I did get is decent but as I said they didn’t send the other 2.
 

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We checked and we did shipped 3 watches with 3 boxes together to you. If you recieved 2 missing, please file a claim to your local courier. We are one of the TD for many years and we never cheat .
Please understand we are here trying to help you.We did nothing wrong. You should not warn us a charge back in your email.


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xxxray328

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You are nothing but cheaters, sending empty boxes, selling watches with cheep Chinese movement replica, instead of original Myiota which you promote.
So you are nothing but a liar and a cheater!
 

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You know watches are always sent seperate from boxes, it’s a red flag and will get seized it has to be sent seperate. I have dealt with angus from puretime personally since 2008-9 over 10 watches and I’ve never had an issue personally. Just keep in mind with the boxes being sent seperate
 

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Also what’s beat up on the boxes?? The exterior cardboard correct? That’s happened to me during shipping, it wasn’t the seller but usps or dhl who delivered it, which is possible in this case. I’ve seen them
Throw boxes
 
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Ciscoken

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We checked and we did shipped 3 watches with 3 boxes together to you. If you recieved 2 missing, please file a claim to your local courier. We are one of the TD for many years and we never cheat .
Please understand we are here trying to help you.We did nothing wrong. You should not warn us a charge back in your email.


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Like I said you only shipped one watch. The other two boxes were empty you thieves. My credit card company will take care of this.
 

Ciscoken

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You know watches are always sent seperate from boxes, it’s a red flag and will get seized it has to be sent seperate. I have dealt with angus from puretime personally since 2008-9 over 10 watches and I’ve never had an issue personally. Just keep in mind with the boxes being sent seperate
There was 3 boxes 1 watch was in one of the boxes and the other two were empty. There was only one tracking number so only one shipment. They just either forgot to put them in or they kept them and sent them to someone else but they were never shipped.
 

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We did tried to work this out with you but you seems never wanted to cooperate. Asked twice to weigh the package but no feedback. Please do not charge back the payments. If you want to dispute the charges, you will also have to return our items.


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apearce

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Im just ordering from Puretime and now Im worried. What concerns me most is that puretime ask the customer to take it up with the local shipper - surely it is puretime who are responsible for that - they chose the shipper, they pay the shipper, the customer has no contract with the shipper. Anyone running a mail order business should source shipping companies who can be trusted and should either take out insurance against loss in transit or have the shipper provide this. Otherwise Amazon can just send broken or empty parcels, or no parcel at all, and tell us to sort it out ourselves.
 

apearce

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Im just ordering from Puretime and now Im worried. What concerns me most is that puretime ask the customer to take it up with the local shipper - surely it is puretime who are responsible for that - they chose the shipper, they pay the shipper, the customer has no contract with the shipper.

Anyone running a mail order business should source shipping companies who can be trusted and should either take out insurance against loss in transit or have the shipper provide this. Otherwise Amazon can just send broken or empty parcels, or no parcel at all, and tell us to sort it out ourselves.
 

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sorry - i dont understand
Buying illegal counterfeit goods in a non-regulated market is not the same as ordinary regulated retail that has to adhere to laws and government regulated oversight.

The Amazon reference is therefore comparing Apples with Oranges.
 

apearce

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Buying illegal counterfeit goods in a non-regulated market is not the same as ordinary regulated retail that has to adhere to laws and government regulated oversight.

The Amazon reference is therefore comparing Apples with Oranges.
But its the shipping service thats in question here, irrespective of whats inside the box they have the same responsibility. My last Puretime watch was delivered in UK by Royal Mail - they dont have the right to open the package and remove the goods just because theyre reps
 

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But its the shipping service thats in question here, irrespective of whats inside the box they have the same responsibility. My last Puretime watch was delivered in UK by Royal Mail - they dont have the right to open the package and remove the goods just because theyre reps
Yes, I understand. But you are expecting the same kind of after sales service, also in regard of how the merchant handles issues with external logistics, and that's unreasonable and unrealistic.

Don’t get me wrong: I too get annoyed at all the downsides we experience while dealing with transactions in this gray / black market, but how things should be in an ideal world and how they actually are, is more often than not simply not how things are in reality.

And the reason why those things are like they are don't even have to necessarily be because the TDs do not care or wouldn't wish to be able to offer us better service. Almost always, the reason is simply a lack of resources, like time or man-power. I'm sure you would agree that a small (and legal) 5-man operation, that sells products out of a small online shop or on eBay, can't and doesn't offer the same kind of after sales services that Amazon can afford to offer.

Perhaps a small operation like a replica TD simply doesn't have the man power to go after every individual issue that occurs with a shipment? I don't know for sure, but what I know is that all TDs that I have dealt with usually try to cooperate with you in case of an issue as good as they can, but I'm sure there are just limits they'll run into.

The key to understanding this hobby is to understand that you can't expect the service of a large corporation and that you even have to be prepared to take a financial hit once in a while and, most importantly perhaps, that you have to be extremely patient. Like really patient.

Otherwise, this hobby will have too many bitter disappointments waiting for you.
 

apearce

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Yes, I understand. But you are expecting the same kind of after sales service, also in regard of how the merchant handles issues with external logistics, and that's unreasonable and unrealistic.

Don’t get me wrong: I too get annoyed at all the downsides we experience while dealing with transactions in this gray / black market, but how things should be in an ideal world and how they actually are, is more often than not simply not how things are in reality.

And the reason why those things are like they are don't even have to necessarily be because the TDs do not care or wouldn't wish to be able to offer us better service. Almost always, the reason is simply a lack of resources, like time or man-power. I'm sure you would agree that a small (and legal) 5-man operation, that sells products out of a small online shop or on eBay, can't and doesn't offer the same kind of after sales services that Amazon can afford to offer.

Perhaps a small operation like a replica TD simply doesn't have the man power to go after every individual issue that occurs with a shipment? I don't know for sure, but what I know is that all TDs that I have dealt with usually try to cooperate with you in case of an issue as good as they can, but I'm sure there are just limits they'll run into.

The key to understanding this hobby is to understand that you can't expect the service of a large corporation and that you even have to be prepared to take a financial hit once in a while and, most importantly perhaps, that you have to be extremely patient. Like really patient.

Otherwise, this hobby will have too many bitter disappointments waiting for you.
I guess we'll have to agree to differ - they put such loving care into helping to develop these reps alongside the fatories, and qc photographing every inch of the watch but cant outsource the postage in a way that stops a poor punter loosing a grands worth of merchadise. Or maybe he nicked it and is blaming them...oooh ;) lets leave it there