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Submariner 116610LV,comprehensive comparison of GEN, VS, Clean, ZF and KING!

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Steve, this is amazing and must have taken a lot of time and work to do, much appreciated.....GREAT job. Thanks. 5 stars lol
 

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Hello, guys. I'm Steve and I'm back. We've already done two comparisons of the Submariner series, 126610LV and 116613LB, so let's get back to the classics. As the ace of the Submariner range, the 116610LV needs no introduction to its popularity, so let's get started.

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Dial front view
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View of the dial in natural light
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View of the dial under lighting​

116610LV has a famous name in our country, that is “green water ghost” (hulk), so the dial color has naturally become the focus, the gen color is dark green, after repeated observation and comparison of the real objects, VS and KING's color is the closest to GEN, especially KING's black and green gradient effect is the most similar to GEN, Clean is also good, but the radial pattern is a bit stronger. The biggest color difference is ZF factory, too bright. But it is difficult to notice the difference without comparing them side by side. Which factory do you think has the better color?

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Side view of bezel​

The VS factory uses the V4 of the clean bezel. The color and brightness of the clean bezel are very good, and there is almost no color difference compared to the GEN, while the bezel of ZF and KING are also actually very good, and there is no difference between the color and the clean bezel. After checking with the factory, ZF factory claims to be using the clean V1 bezel and KING claims to be using the clean V4 bezel as well.

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Side view of the teeth insert​

The shape of the KING's teeth is distinctly different from the GEN's, and the brushed finish on the side of the ZF is too obvious, which has led to a more pronounced depth.

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Side view of the glass​

VS and KING do not have chamfered mirror edges, and although clean and ZF do, they do not have the same shape as GEN.

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view of the bezel digital​

As explained earlier, all four factories use the Clean bezel, and the clean bezel is worthy of being the best submariner green bezel available today, with a platinum filling that is very close to the GEN color and a very regular and fine filling. This is why all the major factories have adopted the clean fitting, which shows that it has been fully accepted by the market, including the factories.

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Pearl View​

There are slight differences between the factories and GEN colors, VS and KING are slightly whitish, while CLEAN is a little darker, ZF is too yellow and the edges are raised too high.
stunning post mate ! has anyone take mid case thickness for a more detailed comparation?

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King has an impressive effort there, could easily pass as one of the others. Awesome right up as always Steve!
 

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Excellent comparison and very glad to see the gen in the lineup for reference - it validates why I chose the VSF Hulk which is one of my favorite reps. This thread like all his others are very good marketing too - I just ordered two more VSF subs from Steve !
 
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Another THANK YOU! I love those threads! So informative! Feeling like a coronet student! 🤓😁
 
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Thank you for taking the time to do all these side by side comparisons of so many watches!
 

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Excellent comparison and very glad to see the gen in the lineup for reference - it validates why I chose the VSF Hulk which is one of my favorite reps. This thread like all his others are very good marketing too - I just ordered two more VSF subs from Steve !
Thanks for your support 😁 😁 😁
 
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Hussain1986

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That’s interesting! Puretime previously compared some factories and claimed that ZF has the best dial colour!
 

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That’s interesting! Puretime previously compared some factories and claimed that ZF has the best dial colour!
PT comparison is old and before the release of V2 dial from VSF.
ZF is still a good version but nowadays some things changed and new factories came in
 
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Very good thread, KING's dial color is the closest to GEN, I will consider using the VS, in conjunction with KING's dial, I do not know whether it is feasible
 

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Can you do a comparison of the dials under sunlight? The biggest tell was how the sunray effect on the VSF would have a profound arch in the sunburst which is not correct. The gen when you look in the sun the sunray effect should not bow or arch.
 
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Can you do a comparison of the dials under sunlight? The biggest tell was how the sunray effect on the VSF would have a profound arch in the sunburst which is not correct. The gen when you look in the sun the sunray effect should not bow or arch.
Sorry, I did not compare in the sun, GEN has been sold by me, if there is a big update of the replica factory later, I will add this comparison
 

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Can you do a comparison of the dials under sunlight? The biggest tell was how the sunray effect on the VSF would have a profound arch in the sunburst which is not correct. The gen when you look in the sun the sunray effect should not bow or arch.
Also concerned about this question, do you have a clear answer, bro?