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Something about all reps PANERAI 2020

Tobel

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Very impressive analysis, thank you for the effort and for sharing!
 
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KOT1917

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Hello, ALE7575 !

Thank you very much, for appreciating my work.

I tried to provide a basis for accounting and analysis, and a ground for discussion.
I am always happy to do something useful and help. This is not the last point.

Yes, you understood everything correctly, in the process of collecting threads, I realized that formally they even belong to 2019. I decided to take into account the first mention of the availability of TD.

Although, as you can see from the links below, it was the end of 2019, and for some TDs they could have been posted in 2020, but I did not check all of them.
https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/8414617-vs-factory-pam906

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/8451075-pam927-vsf

I think 2019 will have its own theme, late or early, and these models will not be deprived of attention. !
 
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Good God, this is an awesome thread. This will help me a lot picking out my next Pam :)
 
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sukwonee

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Thank you!

Well, do you already have thoughts on this, or is it still ahead? (About next PAM)

I am thinking about 1313 and 088 (once or if certain flaws are addressed)! I just spent too much money last couple of months but when I get some budget back, these two so far on top of my list. Of course if VSF drops a nice 40mm rep miraculously, I would be biased towards that haha.
 

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I am thinking about 1313 and 088 (once or if certain flaws are addressed)! I just spent too much money last couple of months but when I get some budget back, these two so far on top of my list. Of course if VSF drops a nice 40mm rep miraculously, I would be biased towards that haha.

Good options, especially pam1313.

What would you like to see fixed in 088, to make it a purchase, in your opinion?
 
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Good options, especially pam1313.

What would you like to see fixed in 088, to make it a purchase, in your opinion?

Yeah 1313 looks very promising and it was good to hear your take on it. Date alignment does bother me a little but it's so tiny on the watch without cyclops.

Regarding 088, the least I need to see is the polished CG. Not too worried about the case shape differences you pointed out or the subdial flaws. I know Ale pointed out the frozen halo issue around the cyclops but to me, I like the look of 088 so much that I think i can overcome these if they can just fix the CG and the GMT. Or maybe I should just look for the older Noob model haha.
 
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KOT1917

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Thanks for your opinion, sukwonee !
It was interesting to know where this line passes for you personally, after which the watch becomes acceptable. Personally, I do not hope that we will see another movt., But fixing the CG is a real task.
I think many would give the green light to this model, at least when solving this problem.

Although, as you rightly noted, old 088 can be found in m2m, while 1313 are quite self-sufficient today, and are available from TD.

In any case, I understand that this decision is not for you today, it was just interesting to hear!
 
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Thanks for your opinion, sukwonee !
It was interesting to know where this line passes for you personally, after which the watch becomes acceptable. Personally, I do not hope that we will see another movt., But fixing the CG is a real task.
I think many would give the green light to this model, at least when solving this problem.

Although, as you rightly noted, old 088 can be found in m2m, while 1313 are quite self-sufficient today, and are available from TD.

In any case, I understand that this decision is not for you today, it was just interesting to hear!

yeah and the more I think about it, the 12 hour GMT doesn't bother me too much - I actually don't even use the function.

What I do wonder about 1313 date is if it gets misaligned when it switches over at midnight - if I can just pull the crown out and correct it myself (by turning it a little). Maybe 1313 owners that have date misalignment issue can chime in on this. If I can correct the misalignment (even if it's a daily task), I would not mind this flaw/QC issue as much.


Regarding my timing, if there is a decent condition 1313 for a reasonable price available in the sales section within CONUS, I might be very tempted!! lol
 
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sukwonee , regarding the date pam1313, I did not have a problematic instance, but as I understand the situation, there may be one of two situations:
- DW is offset in its position, as is the case with any other rep watch. This is fixable, but not on your own, if you do not have practice to disassemble the watch, and especially to remove and put your hands back (lol this is my problem)
- DW poorly printed and numbers are not evenly spaced around the circle. This concern stems from the fact that on some QCs, some dates on some watches may appear flat and some may not.

Theoretically, there may be a situation that the date wheel does not scroll evenly for every day, and it rises in different ways, but I do not know the construction of the p.9000 clone for sure, but knowing other movts., I doubt it very much, I think this is all the same one of the 2 options above.
The bad news is, if it's a printing problem, you won't fix it.
The good news is that if you ask for photos of different dates, you can always understand everything well before buying, or not.
 
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KOT1917 Thanks for the effort to prepare this comprehensive overview! Great info for the casual PAM buyer who doesn't follow all threads on new models.
 
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Many thanks KOT1917 for this thorough work about the 2020 PAM reps

Your informations will be really useful. I will take them into account when I update the PAM GUIDE, discussing with you some points.

ALE


Just curious, why haven't you included PAM 906 and PAM 927 ?.
Because they were in your 2020 rep list. Maybe you have finally considered they are from 2019?

Thanks for this roundup [mention]KOT1917 [/mention]!!
So insightful it even managed to bring ALE back :lol:
Just kidding [mention]ALE7575 [/mention]great to read you again! ;)
Cheers!
 

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Thanks for this roundup [mention]KOT1917 [/mention]!!
So insightful it even managed to bring ALE back :lol:
Just kidding [mention]ALE7575 [/mention]great to read you again! ;)
Cheers!

LOL

Indeed, I think that my firts post this year was a reply to a KOP's post

Thanks for your "welcome"

ALE
 
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Late to the party and not been around much lately, but a PAM1661 caught my eye which drew me back here to investigate.

What a post, thank you, that's just brilliant information.
 
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mrgho06

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Great write-up, ordering a 1312 now...

Thanks!


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Wow this is so well analyzed, really appreciated this man, this is so helpful, hopefully factory can take some notes but I doubt it, lol
 
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I have only just got to this but it has been a real education. Thank you for collating and posting as most informative.
 
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