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Should we anticipate delivery / customs issues w/ Trump in office?

Soxxgo2

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Although the last administrative decision on tariffs lasted one day so maybe this will be the same lol. Crazy times
 
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I was just gonna mention that! Saw it here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usps-suspends-packages-china-hong-kong/

It says "temporarily". Would this mean that FedEx / UPS, etc., would take over any packages coming from China? Or, like a user said above, that triangle shipments would occur? Sounds like a nightmare.

M2M is gonna be the way to go, I think. Thank God for RWI!
It’s early we won’t know until TD’s are back in full swing and people try sending stuff fedex.

FedEx custom seizures are a thing. What will be interesting here will be if people hang onto their reps or M2M them - thankfully the mod squad here stops profiteering.
 
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More than just watches. This will be a PITA for watch parts 😂, bezels, crowns, VS movements, etc
 
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FedEx and ups will be so overwhelmed if this lasts more than a few days that I’m sure our watches will be safe from seizure. They’ll be completely swamped.
 
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I’m assuming no one knows more than I do, and I’m not one to usually worry about a shipment, but my order went through customs on Jan 26, sat in Chicago ISC till Feb 2, when it then updated to “in transit”. It’s a China Post package and hasn’t yet been transferred to USPS, hence my concern.

Cannot find any additional information other than the USPS’ 3 line press release. Even when announcing they aren’t delivering packages they do a bad job!
 

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I’m assuming no one knows more than I do, and I’m not one to usually worry about a shipment, but my order went through customs on Jan 26, sat in Chicago ISC till Feb 2, when it then updated to “in transit”. It’s a China Post package and hasn’t yet been transferred to USPS, hence my concern.

Cannot find any additional information other than the USPS’ 3 line press release. Even when announcing they aren’t delivering packages they do a bad job!
Yeah not even the news agencies know anything. This just randomly happened like an hour ago. I’m guessing it’s some weird bluffing “technique” used by the current “administration”.
 
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I’m assuming no one knows more than I do, and I’m not one to usually worry about a shipment, but my order went through customs on Jan 26, sat in Chicago ISC till Feb 2, when it then updated to “in transit”. It’s a China Post package and hasn’t yet been transferred to USPS, hence my concern.

Cannot find any additional information other than the USPS’ 3 line press release. Even when announcing they aren’t delivering packages they do a bad job!
It's not you. The aliexpress subreddit and chinesewatches (aliexpress watches) subreddit all report the same thing.
 
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My gut is he's trying to use this as a strong arm negoation tactic. To what end I'm not sure, but it appears to be Trumps' go to method to get others to the negoation table. Hopefully that's all it is. That being said, I cannot imagine customs being able to handle this added duty, probably why they have temporarly paused shipments from China. .
 

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FedEx and ups will be so overwhelmed if this lasts more than a few days that I’m sure our watches will be safe from seizure. They’ll be completely swamped.
I would not be so sure of that - I use FedEx a lot - with the elimination of the 800 dollar declaration rule all packages have to be inspected and duty costs assigned to them for payment regardless of cost. Packages will sit until they can be inspected by us customs. That’s not a FedEx problem.
 
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I would not be so sure of that - I use FedEx a lot - with the elimination of the 800 dollar declaration rule all packages have to be inspected and duty costs assigned to them for payment regardless of cost. Packages will sit until they can be inspected by us customs. That’s not a FedEx problem.
I can’t imagine what a cluster F this is going to be if EVERY package (even ones under $800) needs to be inspected and assigned duty. We’ll probably see double the shipping time. At least.
 
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not just we..

we are in a very specific niche, albeit the grandaddy of the rep world..

BUT, the implications of customs cracking down specifically on CHINA and HK Parcels is gamechanging...

all reps in this day and age are now affected... everything as in everything coming from china will be under scrutiny and everything that has a "Logo" is suspect to customs now..

I have expanded my reach far beyond watches and do order designer branded clothing etc as well as the occasional bag for the boss (aka wife) but I'll be damned if for my most recent real-world example: I have to explain to customs about my 10KG parcel where everything is Louis Vuitton and such..

of course explaining is by far the lesser punishment than for them to actually say.. collect customs duty

ouch. ouch.


the rep world as we know it for the next 4 years.. has been changed. Can our EU friends please fill me in on what this triangle shipping thing they do is?! LOL! america is as you succinctly stated.. is fucked
 

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I can’t imagine what a cluster F this is going to be if EVERY package (even ones under $800) needs to be inspected and assigned duty. We’ll probably see double the shipping time. At least.
Agreed. but US customs delays are not Fedex / UPS / DHL's issue or service guarantee. The clock stops when it lands in Newark, Indianapolis, etc.
 

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not just we..

we are in a very specific niche, albeit the grandaddy of the rep world..

BUT, the implications of customs cracking down specifically on CHINA and HK Parcels is gamechanging...

all reps in this day and age are now affected... everything as in everything coming from china will be under scrutiny and everything that has a "Logo" is suspect to customs now..

I have expanded my reach far beyond watches and do order designer branded clothing etc as well as the occasional bag for the boss (aka wife) but I'll be damned if for my most recent real-world example: I have to explain to customs about my 10KG parcel where everything is Louis Vuitton and such..

of course explaining is by far the lesser punishment than for them to actually say.. collect customs duty

ouch. ouch.


the rep world as we know it for the next 4 years.. has been changed. Can our EU friends please fill me in on what this triangle shipping thing they do is?! LOL! america is as you succinctly stated.. is fucked
TD's will find a way - Theres a large economic segment around low cost goods coming to America, for segments where its worth while, like replica goods in general, they will bounce it through mexico or something. Someone enterprising will act. Patience is going to be the key for now, let the chaos erupt, and hang loose... CNY is going on right now, so the real impact / alternatives are yet to be known.
 

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TD's will find a way - Theres a large economic segment around low cost goods coming to America, for segments where its worth while, like replica goods in general, they will bounce it through mexico or something. Someone enterprising will act. Patience is going to be the key for now, let the chaos erupt, and hang loose... CNY is going on right now, so the real impact / alternatives are yet to be known.
you realize how many orders have been placed and are literally being shipped right now? because as you said.. CNY is over

you think the chinese sellers care at all?? they're just going to ship the packages and let us deal with whatever may happen

TD's may take a longer time and see how to navigate these waters but i don't think you understood what it means that the usa has begun re-accepting packages from china and HK... they are accepting them to inspect them. Regardless of how small the package may be.. if it's from china/hk.. it's being set aside to be inspected. It's not like before where they really just target the wholesaler-type hauls and let us individual consumers go thru
 

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the rep world as we know it for the next 4 years.. has been changed. Can our EU friends please fill me in on what this triangle shipping thing they do is?! LOL! america is as you succinctly stated.. is fucked
As an "EU friend", I can of course say very little about the situation in the USA. But as a German, I can tell you that it is a complete illusion that every package is really checked by customs.

First of all, a distinction must be made here: parcels from China from the TDs come through a specific system in which taxes (not customs duties) are paid in advance. Therefore, spot checks are only carried out in very, very rare cases. This is a special case.

Comparable to the situation that now threatens you in the US is the situation before this special regulation. Every day, around one million parcels arrive in Germany from abroad that would have to be checked by customs. Of course, that's not an option, so only random samples are taken. Apart from these samples, the risk is very low if the sender is professional and fills out the accompanying documents ‘correctly’. So if the seller sends you a Rep and writes ‘mechanical watch for 80 Euros’ on the accompanying papers, im most cases you just pay the taxes on the 80 Euros and everything is fine. It's not as bad as it seems. And most TDs offer a loss guarantee anyway, non-TDs usually have insurance for 2 to 5 percent of the value of the goods on offer.
 

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you realize how many orders have been placed and are literally being shipped right now? because as you said.. CNY is over

you think the chinese sellers care at all?? they're just going to ship the packages and let us deal with whatever may happen

TD's may take a longer time and see how to navigate these waters but i don't think you understood what it means that the usa has begun re-accepting packages from china and HK... they are accepting them to inspect them. Regardless of how small the package may be.. if it's from china/hk.. it's being set aside to be inspected. It's not like before where they really just target the wholesaler-type hauls and let us individual consumers go thru
Then the watches will just be sent via Singapore or even the UK. Some TDs even still have the ancient Triangle infrastructure in the UK, which was actually intended for the EU ;-)
 
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I can tell you that it is a complete illusion that every package is really checked by customs.

^^. There are random checks, and checks made on parcels from certain countries - notably China, for counterfeit goods and underdeclared goods, India for generic medicines.