Selling in M2M - annoying buyers

[m5750]

Does it have a black dial and is it still available?. I'm asking for a friend who was hit by a runaway moose today in downtown Toronto. He's at the hospital in Vancouver and think it would make a good get well soon gift. His fifth cousin twice removed on his great nieces side will be doing the transaction and will be dealing with you.

The email addy: [email protected] and her name is Swallow.

It had a black dial, but it could also come in magenta, primrose and agreeable grey. I just got off the phone with Olivia Chow and she told me the moose was actually her pet, and his name is Charles. He's also sorry and sends his regards to your friend. I'll have my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate contact his fifth cousin, which in America, could be his wife, depending on the state and handle it. I don't even have a watch, but I can use magic to make one appear in these unfortunate circumstances.

Her name is Swallow. English or African?

 

[Dave2302]

This kind of guy I know very well. He want TD experience but without TD price from m2m. The minute they become demanding just back out and refer him to a TD.

We are not dealers we are just watch hobbyists. To demand TD service level and more from a watch we make a loss on is just tiring.

I buy a lot from M2M, and TD's, sometimes if a watch is unavailable then I go off piste (EBay, DHG or Private sales)

With the exception of @RepPossessed RepSource TD who is normally next day on stock items, I find most M2M's are way faster than China TD's.
I am buying the seller as well as the watch.

I am yet to sell anything in M2M, since I can't be bothered with "tyre kicker low-balling shite talking wombats"

 

[Wingding1984]

her name is Swallow.

....*immediately interested*....

 

[Warwickhunt]

You mean to find it

Try living in the UK where it's so cold there's a very real chance you'll have to sit down because you can't find it in time and make a right mess. We all live for those two - maybe three days a year when we all become John Holmes...

 

[Warwickhunt]

It's the classic playout of being offered a piece for say a few quid under the TD price, on a new stickered item, and people go for the ol'

WOULD YOU TAKE 50% OF YOUR ASKING PRICE PAY STRAIGHT AWAY BRO

Maybe I'm just being miserable

I'm low balling your next sale just for the laugh now...

 

[m5750]

This kind of guy I know very well. He want TD experience but without TD price from m2m. The minute they become demanding just back out and refer him to a TD.

We are not dealers we are just watch hobbyists. To demand TD service level and more from a watch we make a loss on is just tiring.

I won't fall for it again or entertain it. It's hard to piss me off, but this guy was, as my father said to me when I was a kid, "Crusin'". Long story short, it was my old man telling me it was time to shut up. I didn't dislike him as a person at all, but he was unrealistic as hell.

 

[mwp1971]

Putting a watch for sale is for me an uneasy experience, I want everything to be right and I probably shake at least as much as the final buyer until the watch reaches him and he's happy with it.
Another bothering aspect is annoying prospective buyers. The insecure, the lazy, the brazen, self-entitled folk who think they're buying on amazon or who simply think they're smarter than everyone else. I'll start off with a couple of examples and hope you can share your experiences as well, so maybe some of those buyers will read this and learn a bit about "buying etiquette".

Those who...
You put a watch for sale for, say 630$, shipping included. You even post "open to reasonable offers". You receive a PM: "I'm taking it for 500 now". You either ignore the buyer or answer "what did you drink?" or even "F*** off". The prospective buyer reports you for being "rude".

Those who....
You put a ZF 15500 for sale. You receive a PM: "What's the difference between ZF and APSF of this model? Which one is more gen-like in terms of dial color? How is the quality of the case finishing? Will someone recognize it's a fake watch?".

Those who...
You sell a diving watch. Buyer receives it and sends you a PM: "The watch doesn't work! It will only run for a couple of hours and the small wheel can't be pulled, it's stuck!". You answer: "Did you perchance unscrew the SCREW-DOWN crown?". Answer: "The what?"

Please share your experiences, I'm sure there's more annoying and hilarious anecdotes to tell.

"I'm taking it for 500 now". You either ignore the buyer or answer "what did you drink?" or even "F*** off". The prospective buyer reports you for being "rude". THE FVCK????!! That takes balls to come off like that. I am just curious for prosperities sake, if you are asking $630, what is reasonable to you? I also ask because i am selling a watch on Ebay and I open to offers. For me about $75 off of my offer is reasonable.

 

[Wingding1984]

Yeah, 10% wiggle room is reasonable unless you're in a real hurry to sell.

 

[Feefo]

PM:
"...actually too good to let it slip through my fingers. How far can you bear to go down for an impulse buy on my part?"

My answer: "It's already heavily discounted, and just because the strap has been replaced (note: a chinese rep leather strap). Can discount 10 and include shipping"

This is what you earn trying to be generous. His answer:

"So I have now taken a closer look at it compared to the Gen..it's a nice one but unfortunately there are some differences that catch my eye just visually...other spec flaws I don't know yet... is the dial iridescent in the light?! Hands in right subdial in white? Sec hands too? I'm not sure yet...what do you think?!"

The answer I never sent: I think you should "f" off.

 

[Got20Mate]

PM:
"...actually too good to let it slip through my fingers. How far can you bear to go down for an impulse buy on my part?"

My answer: "It's already heavily discounted, and just because the strap has been replaced (note: a chinese rep leather strap). Can discount 10 and include shipping"

This is what you earn trying to be generous. His answer:

"So I have now taken a closer look at it compared to the Gen..it's a nice one but unfortunately there are some differences that catch my eye just visually...other spec flaws I don't know yet... is the dial iridescent in the light?! Hands in right subdial in white? Sec hands too? I'm not sure yet...what do you think?!"

The answer I never sent: I think you should "f" off.

Ah man I can come too close to this, even on my most recent M2M. Id been detailing just now close the latest offering of the ZF Pelagos 39mm to gen, took photos and just spoke about how good it was for the price, details on obvious flaws etc.

Literal messages of HOW CLOSE IS IT GEN

Read. Please read. Use your eyes and read

 

[Feefo]

Ah man I can come too close to this, even on my most recent M2M. Id been detailing just now close the latest offering of the ZF Pelagos 39mm to gen, took photos and just spoke about how good it was for the price, details on obvious flaws etc.

Literal messages of HOW CLOSE IS IT GEN

Read. Please read. Use your eyes and read

That's different, that is a lazy buyer. In fact, I have in my useless disclaimers that I won't answer any questions regarding how the watch I'm selling compares to gen or other factories and people should do their own homework. My guy was trying to haggle by bringing up the differences to gen. Nonsense. If he comes back and wants the watch I'll take back my discount.

 

[domiffm]

Classic:
Stated in sale: Shipping only in EU

Flooded by messages from mainly new members from UK: Can you discount? I take the watch then.

 

[Maximillian]

Classic:
Stated in sale: Shipping only in EU

Flooded by messages from mainly new members from UK: Can you discount? I take the watch then.

They voted no in Brexit vote, they are still imaginary EU citizen.

 

[Karbon74]

Classic:
Stated in sale: Shipping only in EU

Flooded by messages from mainly new members from UK: Can you discount? I take the watch then.

Was i contagious?

 

[Got20Mate]

That's different, that is a lazy buyer. In fact, I have in my useless disclaimers that I won't answer any questions regarding how the watch I'm selling compares to gen or other factories and people should do their own homework. My guy was trying to haggle by bringing up the differences to gen. Nonsense. If he comes back and wants the watch I'll take back my discount.

You're more patient than I am

 

[Got20Mate]

They voted no in Brexit vote, they are still imaginary EU citizen.

HELLO BROTHER SHIP UK OKAY?

deary me

 

[Oh Crap]

From a buyers perspective 🫣🫣 having pissed off a seller
Back in my noobies days I tried to buy a pam111 ... After a couple of simple questions the deal was done. Discussed payment details etc At this point I asked not to do PayPal f&f due to all the 'Dire" warnings. Nope that was what he wanted. At this point not really thinking, I asked for what's app details.. sent money and couldn't understand why the money was sent straight back. He wasn't comfortable with my actions throughout the whole interaction and felt like I needed to educate myself more, what's app is how done scammers begin He told me. He was friendly enough and explained why he refused to deal with me.but I did piss him off. I wasn't happy but accepted his logic and moved on. I did get my pam111 eventually from another member. I probably left out a couple of details but there you be

 

[Steffen3010]

Watch in like new condition.

TD price 598$ = 530€

Offered for 430 shipped

„Can you do 350? For just 100 more I can get a new one from TD“

 

[Maximillian]

From a buyers perspective 🫣🫣 having pissed off a seller
Back in my noobies days I tried to buy a pam111 ... After a couple of simple questions the deal was done. Discussed payment details etc At this point I asked not to do PayPal f&f due to all the 'Dire" warnings. Nope that was what he wanted. At this point not really thinking, I asked for what's app details.. sent money and couldn't understand why the money was sent straight back. He wasn't comfortable with my actions throughout the whole interaction and felt like I needed to educate myself more, what's app is how done scammers begin He told me. He was friendly enough and explained why he refused to deal with me.but I did piss him off. I wasn't happy but accepted his logic and moved on. I did get my pam111 eventually from another member. I probably left out a couple of details but there you be

This reminds me — I’ve never been a seller myself, but as a buyer, I’ve definitely had moments where certain sellers… hmm. Maybe because of threads like this, some of them just assume you're that kind of buyer the moment you ask a simple question. I still remember once asking a follow-up because the listing photos were blurry, and the seller basically shut me down on the spot.

Just for the record, some folks here know this already: I’ve never been a troublesome buyer. If both parties are online, it usually takes no more than 15 minutes from first PM to fund sent.

Anyway, if you don’t want to deal with too many questions, here’s a tip: Clean your phone lens before taking photos. Use proper lighting. Don’t miss focus. And most importantly — wipe down the watch first. I honestly couldn’t tell if that was a scratch or just a bit of dirt.

 

[mclarendude]

Watch in like new condition.

TD price 598$ = 530€

Offered for 430 shipped

„Can you do 350? For just 100 more I can get a new one from TD“

This reminds me of a gen I posted not too long ago.

$795 MSRP

Posted for $400.

Got a PM offer for $275....

I was so gobsmacked that I rekindled my love with the watch.