Selling in M2M - annoying buyers

[Karbon74]

SOMEONE IMPORTANT HERE

@asusundevils1971
Clearly he does not think you are someone important here.

 

[munichman]

purchase on M2M if the sellers don't know who you are with no purchase history

For what reason would I need a "purchase history" from the buyer?
I really don´t care who buys my stuff.
Once the funds are in my account/ PP FF the case is closed for me.
For more expensive goods I always take pictures from the way I pack those things and let my wife have a look and have her bring it to the post office, so that I always have a witness that the package with the goods was handed over to the forwarder.

 

[Karbon74]

For what reason would I need a "purchase history" from the buyer?
I really don´t care who buys my stuff.
Once the funds are in my account/ PP FF the case is closed for me.
For more expensive goods I always take pictures from the way I pack those things and let my wife have a look and have her bring it to the post office, so that I always have a witness that the package with the goods was handed over to the forwarder.

There are many people of bad faith unfortunately. If you browse around you will see many threads of buyers claiming the parcel was empty.

Pictures or even videos only go so far. After all, it is possible to open the box after the video and take out the watch.

In such a case, the situation becomes super messy and a hassle to deal with.

That’s why many members are rather reluctant to sell to members that are on the « newer » side. That said, many are also like you and don’t really care as long as the watch is sold. It’s really up to you where you put the cursor.

Speaking for myself, if I have even the slightest doubt about a person, I call off the transaction. I do this hobby for fun. The last thing I want is to get into a hassle for so little money.

 

[munichman]

The last thing I want is to get into a hassle for so little money.

That´s true.
I am selling quite a lot through the German version of Craiglist.
Some buyers really think I would ripp them off over 50,- € or something like that and make a big deal about security blablabla, wanting to pay via secured PP.
That´s when I call those deals off.
I´ve been ripped off two times by PP as a seller and you might as well give the goods away for free.

 

[P..DR..D]

Due diligence works both ways, in all deals, so history is always key for all involved.

If I even sniff something off, it's not happening.

 

[Dave2302]

Nowhere does it say on the Forum that PP F+F is the only way to pay.

Also, there are many other ways to pay !!

In this game you should never spend more than you can comfortably afford to lose and expect to lose a bit now and then when buying off piste so to speak.

Buying from RWI TD's and M2M are not included in the losing money statement !!

 

[asusundevils1971]

I understand . Asap I ‘ll become a Patriot . Just a bit of confirmations to my thoughts . BUT IN THIS FORUM IS AN ADVICE, BIG AS HOUSE, TO BUY ONLY BY PP G&S WITH MY COMMISSION . SOMEONE IMPORTANT HERE, PLEASE, TELLS ME THE REASON OF THIS ADVICE . THANKS, MEMBER .

Then i asked for @Feefo. Not for you . Thanks and have a nice day .

WOW! you are an arrogant disrespectful fuck!!!! @Ralphista... You asked a few questions in an open forum and I answered your questions appropriately. Next time you want your questions answered by SOMEONE IMPORTANT you should PM trailboss99 and see how he responds to your frivolous questions.

Can see why the members here selling in M2M would not want to deal with you if this is how you respond to their messages. Your responses today should help you out next time you try and buy on M2M so sooo much when someone searches your history here.

You are on my list to never help out with anything again. Thanks and Have a nice day...

 

[asusundevils1971]

@asusundevils1971
Clearly he does not think you are someone important here.

Guess they don't think so by their responses lol... Maybe they were hurt by a vacationing Canadian and are just venting their frustrations on me ..

(I am a legend here in my own mind and some members actually like me)

Me thinks I am a legend here and will go about my days acting as such lol...

 

[Karbon74]

Guess they don't think so by their responses lol... Maybe they were hurt by a vacationing Canadian and are just venting their frustrations on me ..



Me thinks I am a legend here and will go about my days acting as such lol...

Sorry who are?

 

[Oilime]

 

[asusundevils1971]

Sorry who are?

So begone.....

 

[Karbon74]

So begone.....

Says the NOT IMPORTANT person

 

[asusundevils1971]

 

[Feefo]

Hi, @Feefo . I have a particular appreciation for you and certainly not because we are both Italian . I’m in fully accord with you except about first point . I permit to submit to your attention the fact, in this forum, there are a lots of advices from estimated admins to buy ONLY by PayPal G&S paying the seller’s commission . Beh, allowing this advice at today, i could not buy anything from anyone . Now, i can understand that if the seller makes many sales ( for reasons like taxes … because PP is detachable almost in Italy, and other problems correlated ) it is completely comprehensible but, in my modest and laughable opinion, no one likes to left money . In my case, not much about THE MONEY, but about the fact someone has f….d myself . But it is only my opinion then, looking at your position in this forum and your feedbacks, I’d buy from you with PP f&f too . This is sure . But, almost on twenty watches I wished to buy at full price from people haven’t your position, the results I have received are only mocking comments to my offers by PP G&S with paying commission . So, if this excellent forum says you to pay only by PP G&S not certainly by a celebrated member as you are, I pray you to explain me what is the right way . With all my respect and friendship. Greetings from Italy ,

Well, the explanation is basically summed up in the first sentence of @Raddave 's post (https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/protect-yourself.10934131/post-11161501):

It is the responsibility of the buyer to trade safely and protect themselves. Please follow the following advice:

The recommendation to use PP G&S is an advice. However, a transaction is between two stakeholders and the seller has the right (and the responsibility) to protect himself, too. As a buyer, you have to "buy the seller", but the seller has to "buy the buyer", too. Limiting payment methods to PP FF is a means to protect himself. I do not have a big selling history here, but when I put a watch up for sale, 90% of the contacts will come from members I've never heard or read about. If I apply the same logic advised to the buyer in the thread linked above, I will be hesitant to trust such a member with paying with G&S and risk a possible chargeback. I have sold to complete noobs though, encouraged them to certify first before doing so and only if my gut feeling - acquired through interacting with him - told me the risk was very low.

Trust must go both ways. If a seller allows for G&S his motives stem from him trusting the buyer. It's not necessarily the same if a buyer offers to pay with G&S. His motives may be all the wrong ones.

When I buy, I try to buy from sellers I know from their interactions on RWI, they have a solid reputation and I've seen them around a lot.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

Alright, I’ll take it. Send me your PayPal details…..

 

[CF_Stan]

@asusundevils1971 I think you maybe a little harsh on Ralphy here. The way it reads to me is Important means Staff or Admin, someone official.

Also to be fair he did request Feefo and got a budget Canadian instead .

 

[Karbon74]

@asusundevils1971 I think you maybe a little harsh on Ralphy here. The way it reads to me is Important means Staff or Admin, someone official.

Also to be fair he did request Feefo and got a budget Canadian instead .

Absolument
It’s a language issue.

But @asusundevils1971 seems to be a DHGate Canadian indeed. He seems too easily triggered for a gen Canadian.

 

[asusundevils1971]

Also to be fair he did request Feefo and got a budget Canadian instead .

He did ask Feefo but not in PM but in an open forum with a couple of simple questions that even ME a budget Canadian who is a nobody RWI member could answer but a Reddit user would have trouble understanding without the alignment tool.

But @asusundevils1971 seems to be a DHGate Canadian indeed. He seems too easily triggered for a gen Canadian.

Why are the two of you picking on me so early today ... If the two of you want a gen and not a DHGate budget Canadian then call Justin Trudeau or Karbon74's favorite Celine Dion.

 

[Karbon74]

Why are the two of you picking on me so early today

It’s already the afternoon over here

It’s not picking. It’s LOVE
you are IMPORTANT to us

 

[Bombardier]