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SA3135 Movement Observations
- Thread starter Warrcraft
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Sorry to derail this one folks. If anyone want to keep discussing the new 3135 clones, please do.
Sorry to derail this one folks. If anyone want to keep discussing the new 3135 clones, please do.
This is very important information as it goes to the fact that they admit, acknowledge, and have known of this defect. Any member with a problem watch should return for repair, exchange, or refund.
Do not take that email lightly, its serious business and admittmance to a known faluty movement. If they knew or should have known is a important fact here.
Or just said "yeah yeah, we fixed" so they wouldn't be bothered with it anymore.
Oh believe me I was gonna say that but I thought I'd be called a psycho again, LOL.:wacko:
I can gurantee you in the last week or so they didn't send back all the stock and have it fixed by the movement maker, nope they just keep taking orders, of course.
Ruprekt, I'm shocked you got that reply, seriously.
I feel like somes members didn't understand what i said, i said that the movement keeps good time, this is not my point. All i'm saying is buying this movement is for one reason, change dial and hands!! I shared pics of the stem next to an aftermarket one, well everyone can see the diference. The issue is not that does the movement keeps good time or not, the issue is that a lot of members who bought that rep have probleme to pull back the crown in position trying to find the sweet spot to make sure the hands aren't moving. You can say anything but this is an issue, and next to typical movement, the stem and all feel a bit cheap. So now my question is without modds issues how long the stem ll resist you turning it around before it break? This is a good question, and an other one is how can we fix that problem. And for the modding part well, the first sale argument is that now we can install gen dial and hands. right...And to find parts in case of a problem good luck, i don't even now if i can get a new stem for replacement. I am not saying that the movement is junk but it is not perfect either...
I guess yes they have a place like this never had this problem before..
I bought 2 of these SA3135, i kind liked the idee and great for modds so i'm the first upset about this stem problem, I don't know, maybe this sweet spot problem doesn't come from the stem, but still the stem is in bad shape and weak making..
I bought 2 of these SA3135, i kind liked the idee and great for modds so i'm the first upset about this stem problem, I don't know, maybe this sweet spot problem doesn't come from the stem, but still the stem is in bad shape and weak making..
It's a hard lesson learned, but when something's new buy them one at a time until your sure of the quality. I'd send your watches back for at least a replacement if not a refund.
They should have shown these watches at Rep Basel World last year before they prepared them to hit the market for the holiday season. They know better than all of this! ROFLMAO!
Ineedawatch2, I know, but they never do that.:biglaugh:
I gotta go, Long Duck Dong and Short Wang Dong are at my door and they look mad at me. I don't see any watches on their hands, just tape and bats.
I gotta go, Long Duck Dong and Short Wang Dong are at my door and they look mad at me. I don't see any watches on their hands, just tape and bats.
bibi13, don't worry, people reading your posts understand the issues you are concerned about. You have laid them out clearly and the pictures helped! Omega, in spite of the problems, you are right, it is keeping good time and I am "hoping" the movement itself is sound. I do agree with sub4me, that as much as we paid for these watches, we should not have to find the "sweet spot" worry about the stem breaking, or anything else. Our cheapest movements easily and firmly change dates, times etc. I am hoping it is an easy fix, but suspect if bibi's watch-smith is correct about the after-market (bigger-better-stem) won't fit, then at least this portion of the SA3135 is going to need to be redesigned. This, really is something the "makers" of this new movement must have known about?
I have purchased several watches from Angus, and I think he sincerely believed the movement was fine and was assured of that by the makers of the new movement. Hopefully, with time, the problems will get worked out. However, I am sceptical about his reply to Ruprekt, not because he is being dishonest, but because I am not sure he understands the problem at this point. What exactly does.. "The movement has been fixed yet and it *will not be any problems with it" mean? WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN FIXED? If it is a stem problem, as bibi13's watch-smith stated, and a thicker after-market (gen like) stem won't fit, then it seems an actual redesign of that portion of this movement would have to take place for a WORKING stem to fit. I can't imagine that being a quick fix. Again, this is all speculation at this point until we get a tear down from one of our own trusted members.
For now, I will keep my SA3135 on a watch winder and enjoy wearing it (albeit with some curbed enthusiasm).
Lesson re-learned for me... DON'T purchase the "Version-1" models of anything.
I have purchased several watches from Angus, and I think he sincerely believed the movement was fine and was assured of that by the makers of the new movement. Hopefully, with time, the problems will get worked out. However, I am sceptical about his reply to Ruprekt, not because he is being dishonest, but because I am not sure he understands the problem at this point. What exactly does.. "The movement has been fixed yet and it *will not be any problems with it" mean? WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN FIXED? If it is a stem problem, as bibi13's watch-smith stated, and a thicker after-market (gen like) stem won't fit, then it seems an actual redesign of that portion of this movement would have to take place for a WORKING stem to fit. I can't imagine that being a quick fix. Again, this is all speculation at this point until we get a tear down from one of our own trusted members.
For now, I will keep my SA3135 on a watch winder and enjoy wearing it (albeit with some curbed enthusiasm).
Lesson re-learned for me... DON'T purchase the "Version-1" models of anything.
This is exactly what I'm going to do. I'm thinking I will leave it on the winder to see how long it lasts. If it's as bad as sub4me says, it should only be a month or two before I can send it back for a refund. :thinking:
Listen everyone, forgot what I say, read this and the other thread through, make your own minds up about the watch you have and how it performs, look at the pics posted in this thread, play with your watch, change the date, time, and wind the F'er, its either F'ed up or not, it either works or doesn't, it DOES NOT kinda work. Read the words of the dealer saying and admiting they knew the problem existed, think about the amount you paid for this watch, and add all that together with the fact that the selling point was the movement takes gen parts. Just think about it.
I hear you guys about the winder, seems like a good idea, or is it?? First I'm pretty sure most of you didn't spend that much to watch a watch twirl (maybe some of you did, lol), second even if the watch runs for months on a winder that doesn't fix or solve the problem that will probably come later (crown stem breaking when you adjust time, set date, or not work at all), and also consider this, maybe it breaks 3 months from now maybe 5 months, you go to change the date and opps the crown pops out into your hand, ask yourself how your gonna feel when that happens, and finally do you think for a second that dealer is gonna repair, exchange, or refund you for your used watch later?? Nope, their gonna say so sorry, friend. You buy more watch, we find you best one, you like long time, pay now, we ship fast for you, thank you friend.
I hear you guys about the winder, seems like a good idea, or is it?? First I'm pretty sure most of you didn't spend that much to watch a watch twirl (maybe some of you did, lol), second even if the watch runs for months on a winder that doesn't fix or solve the problem that will probably come later (crown stem breaking when you adjust time, set date, or not work at all), and also consider this, maybe it breaks 3 months from now maybe 5 months, you go to change the date and opps the crown pops out into your hand, ask yourself how your gonna feel when that happens, and finally do you think for a second that dealer is gonna repair, exchange, or refund you for your used watch later?? Nope, their gonna say so sorry, friend. You buy more watch, we find you best one, you like long time, pay now, we ship fast for you, thank you friend.
I have been eagerly awaiting this movement for a project that has been lingering in the wings but the more I read about it, the more I think I'll have to find something different. To get this movement, I'd have to buy the whole watch. BAM $400. Plus shipping. THEN it breaks and I need parts. BAM. ANOTHER $400. Plus more shipping. If it breaks two more times, and it most likely will, I could have bought a gen 3135 and been able to take it to any jeweler and had it fixed properly in a day or two.
That said, the crown height on the ceramic subs with this movement is KILLER! Can anybody tell me about the case shape though? Are they finally using the right case or is this still the GMT case like the noob ceramics?
That said, the crown height on the ceramic subs with this movement is KILLER! Can anybody tell me about the case shape though? Are they finally using the right case or is this still the GMT case like the noob ceramics?